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Fleetwood paid a six figure fee for Jamie Vardy when they were in non league, they've paid for a training facility of their own that blows ours out of the water. This spending of money isn't anything new BB.

 

RT I don't disagree that Darragh is doing the best for his football club and I'm not saying that spending cash means success. What I'm saying that every time something like this happens it inflates the fees/wages to the bottom of the EFL pyramid, I think we'll see some struggling this season with player demands if they don't have a wealthy backer.

 

It was a small 6 figure though sum wasn't it? He was getting paid £850 a week at Fleetwood, nothing in comparison to what players demands are now, again I'm not saying it's anything knew I'm saying the money being thrown about now is going to have detrimental effects on the rest of the EFL and I think we'll soon the aftermath soon

 

Man Utd bought the league for pretty much a decade and no-one batted an eyelid, they only started whingeing when someone came in and suddenly they couldn't buy the best players in the league at the end of the season. Of course, you have to allow for the fact they had a golden generation in the class of '92 but had they not also been able to steal the top talent of the rest of the country for a decade it would have been much more difficult for them. Just look at the dominance of Bayern and Juve in their respective leagues, for example.

 

Such a weird example to use Peterborough, they've been the opposite of buying the league... they've generated that cash by having superior scouting and contacts, selling players and reinvesting the money. Whether selling your best players every season is the best way to move forward is a different matter, of course...

 

I know haha

I've just heard for years Man Utd fans complaining about it when they forget about Keane, Rooney, Ferdinand, Veron, Van Nistlerooy etc... the list goes on.

 

Wasn’t their spending self funded though rather than by their owners?

 

I guess its one of a few ways to try and run your club at a profit or at least break even. If you work to this sort of business model then if you aren't selling your best players then you are failing with your strategy. Its a vicious circle, if you are successful and gain promotion then your best players will automatically be targets of ambitious clubs. You're then on a merry go round of looking for those same sort of players that you acquired your successful players from, you can buy from the divisions above but it will cost you more in fees and wages so doesn't fit the structure you are implementing.
Lets face it, the only way you are going to be a contender at a higher level is with significant investment, something we did in the 90s with BFG.

 

Whilst I'm defending outside investment though, and you can bet if any of us win the Euro Millions next super rollover you best start referring to us as Chairman Whoever, it is a double edged sword:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-epl-efl-league-one-two-championship-miguel-delaney-a8926126.html

I just feel the FFP thing is a way of keeping the big on top, in the same way the top 16 teams in Europe insisting the always now have a place in the champions league is because other teams have started buying their way to the top table. It's difficult to have sympathy for them. The state sponsored teams is a step too far... difficult to know where the right balance is

 

The idea of FFP and SCMP are not to make the game fair but to try and make sure clubs don’t end up with huge amounts of debt which could cause the clubs to end up in admin

 

Personally, I'd like half to go to tier 3 & 4 clubs and half further down the pyramid. The money would be ring fenced and only used for Academies giving everyone the chance to develop their own.

 

That is the point of my post, The big clubs spend so much time hiding and cheating to stay within the rules making the running and accounts of the club as obscure as possible, Far better to leave it to the market to decide investment,
What is of more value is the fair distribution of TV income with the authorities enforcing a fairer deal for lower divisions giving much more fairer chance of competing rather than the FFP which does nothing but encourage expensive lawyers and accountants to get round it

 

I largely agree with this. the big money TV deal is for the premier league. why should those clubs have to share with Bradford City and Macclesfied Town?

 

The Premier league would lose some of its attraction without the pyramid below it, Without the body of the football league then the head would eventually die. Despite the vast amount of money that is paid to the Premier league the viewing figures for the lower divisions are booming and it may well be that they negotiate a separate deal when up for renewal, If the Premier league continue to keep the lions share of the money they may find the lower divisions taking a lot more in a separate deal.

 

It is ridiculous to say that the PL should have all the tv money; the TV companies make money out of all football fans not just PL fans. I am just as likely to watch EFL matches as I am the PL which normally bores the pants off me! Like @trevor says we should be much more proactive in our negotiations with the tv companies, rather than waiting for the crumbs to drop off the table.

 

The one argument being levied against Man City is the source of the money. I.e. its a countries slush fund coming from oil. I think this argument is a bit thin and maybe slightly racist. Who's to say who's money is better than others? Abramovich who became rich by plundering the resources of a country at very cheap prices when they became privatised or Qatar? i would also argue that PSG are far more extravagant in their spending

 

Dn't have to worry about the owners pulling out of Manchester City, won't happen. They're it for the long haul, they have clubs and facilities worldwide and City will only continue to grow as a worldwide brand, though i do admit they are a fair way behind the likes of Liverpool and United, they'll soon be bigger than other team bar those two in this country. Its the way football is heading and won't stop, its one of the biggest cash cows in the world.