Salford City, The State of Football & Financial Fair Play

Absolutely spot on

 

I know haha

I've just heard for years Man Utd fans complaining about it when they forget about Keane, Rooney, Ferdinand, Veron, Van Nistlerooy etc... the list goes on.

 

Wasn’t their spending self funded though rather than by their owners?

 

By having the biggest stadium and the good luck of happening to win the first couple of Premier leagues though when all the money came flooding in...

 

My point overall is that how is it any more fair for the same team to win it every year just because they're the biggest which is why I gave the examples of Bayern and Juve. Do the 30,000 Man City fans who were going every year in Division 2 deserve it less than any other team?

 

Qatar definitely corruption. Not sure about Baku, just think UEFA trying to spread the game to countries that are not particulary football mad, but backfired in my opinion

 

No they don’t deserve it any less then anyone else but surely you can see the difference between spending money the club have generated through the team and spending money because your owners are wealthy.

 

To be fair that may be the case

 

I guess its one of a few ways to try and run your club at a profit or at least break even. If you work to this sort of business model then if you aren't selling your best players then you are failing with your strategy. Its a vicious circle, if you are successful and gain promotion then your best players will automatically be targets of ambitious clubs. You're then on a merry go round of looking for those same sort of players that you acquired your successful players from, you can buy from the divisions above but it will cost you more in fees and wages so doesn't fit the structure you are implementing.
Lets face it, the only way you are going to be a contender at a higher level is with significant investment, something we did in the 90s with BFG.

 

I can see the difference, I'm just saying either can be considered unfair, depending on your point of view.

 

Certainly the Premier League is richer for Man Utd not winning it two in every 3 years, then Arsenal in the third because they have bigger stadiums

 

Can honestly say I’ve never heard anyone complain about clubs spending money they have generated

 

Whilst I'm defending outside investment though, and you can bet if any of us win the Euro Millions next super rollover you best start referring to us as Chairman Whoever, it is a double edged sword:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/premier-league-epl-efl-league-one-two-championship-miguel-delaney-a8926126.html

I just feel the FFP thing is a way of keeping the big on top, in the same way the top 16 teams in Europe insisting the always now have a place in the champions league is because other teams have started buying their way to the top table. It's difficult to have sympathy for them. The state sponsored teams is a step too far... difficult to know where the right balance is

 

I feel it's slightly more nuanced than that... I think the point I'm trying to make is it's more that those teams can't complain that other teams buy the league through outside investment, when that's what they're doing by being able to generate more money than anyone else. It's still buying the league

 

The idea of FFP and SCMP are not to make the game fair but to try and make sure clubs don’t end up with huge amounts of debt which could cause the clubs to end up in admin

 

That’s what they want you to think.

What happens if a club fails it? They are fined first. How is that helping the small clubs stay debt free or away form debt?

 

Ceferin of UEFA has come up with an interesting idea.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/interview-with-uefa-president-aleksander-ceferin-a-1269128.html

 

Wow, these German reporters don't hold back do they?

'DER SPIEGEL: Mr. Ceferin, the aftershocks from the FIFA scandal can still be felt while the Football Leaks revelations uncovered tax evasion and back-room deal-making. Since you were elected UEFA president in 2016, has there been even a single day when you haven't been lied to by a functionary?'

That's the first question! hahah

 

Nope, they're always to the point.
The interesting idea is the "luxury tax" though

 

Yes sorry I read the article then got distracted before I had the chance to reply. It does sound like a good idea... where would you rather the money go, other teams in that league or grassroots? Personally I'd go grassroots, or certainly further down the pyramid... if it was divided between that league it wouldn't make a difference or catch the other teams up, whereas it would make a big difference lower down.