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  1. Jay

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    Wright yes and Riley and Jones really need to go on loan and be give. A chance
     
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  2. SimonW

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    Except for talent and actual performance are not the same thing. There are plenty of players who you can't deny their talent but never put the other part together to play at the level they should do.His raw talent is higher than league one level, he just hasn't developed the other aspects yet to compliment that talent.
     
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    Combination of things. First there is are the figures that with a bit of research you can find media reports on, then Football Manager is often a pretty good secondary source as the researchers for clubs are connected so they get the ball park figures right. Then finally as he is a United product I have some low level contacts (friends of friends) who have some inside knowledge on the youth setup at United (where it’s much less cloak and daggers) with everything pointing at £3-3.5k (or closer to £4k with bonuses but as he isn’t playing he is unlikely to be getting these)
     
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  5. Bronco

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    Honestly think if Graeme Tomlinson had stayed with us, he would have had a better career by virtue of the first team games that he would have got under his belt. Can remember his debut; when we had the ball, the only thing on his mind was the opponents goal and his confidence for someone so young was startling. I'm afraid Ben's problem was between his ears.
     
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  7. Damo

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    He was plain unlucky. Man Utd had a very good record of bringing through youngsters at that time. I yearn for the days when I could name the England U21 side
     
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    Correct. And they will be well paid as well.
     
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  9. Bronco

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    You're correct with your comment with regards Stefan putting his faith in Edin but there were questions being asked from the very start, some with regards Phil Parkinson leaving and changes within our club, although Stuart got the club to Wembley there were comments (some called them rumours at the time) with regards the fall out between Edin and Stuart and the possibility of Stuart going, as you say Stefan backed Edin every time, thank goodness people with our club at heart told Stefan the truth and he believed them.
     
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    Which could mean many things but was, understandably, interpreted by most of us to mean transfer fees. We now know that much, if not all, of it was required to deal with Edin's financial lunacy.
     
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    Things have improved on the playing front but our position hasn't improved that much.
     
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    Is it more what hopkin said recently?

    That the players not in didn’t have the right attitude or something along those lines. And people have put 2 and 2 together?
     
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    We had John O’Kane and Paul Tierney on loan as well, neither of them ever amounted to anything.
     
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    I always feel people jump to conclusions when managers mention attitude. They instantly goto 'Bad attitude' but attitude is such a broad terminology and it usually means more that they just don't fit with the style of play and the general mentality that the manager wants. Otherwise, 99.9% of professional players have bad attitudes which is clearly not the case
     
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    It depends, does he miss out on the Injury by staying with you? The Class of 92 at United got fairly lucky that they missed out on serious injuries but the years after that we lost alot of the most promising players for extended periods with serious injuries, injuries which back then medical care wasn't at the level it is now so recovering anywhere near the old level was nigh on impossible. The likes of Tomlinson and Thornley for example were highly regarded and from the Class of 91 you had Adrian Doherty who Giggs is on record as saying he feels without injury Doherty would have blocked his way into the first team.

    Players are much luckier these days, where leg breaks, cruciate injuries are still bad it largely doesn't stop them coming close to fulfilling their potential
     
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    The bench will/should be stronger when absentees return. Akpan, Scannell, Mellor, Reeves ( interesting he has not been named as one to find another club), Colville. Maybe Robinson? It's the changing rhetoric from DH which my piss poor attempt at humor, fails to escape my attention!
     
  17. Fordy117

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    Hopkin must be told to reduce wages and forcing these players out by not putting them
    In the squad. It's nothing to do with how they're in training.

    That's fine.

    However, sorry but they're better than some of the players on the bench.
     
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  18. Botswana Bantam

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    So, to clarify, you are actually happy they are leaving or should I trawl through threads to find posts where you've slated all three of them first?
     
  19. Fordy117

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    Yeah I know mate but they haven't featured as he is forcing them out.

    I've no issue with that but our bench and some of the 1st team players are extremely poor.
     
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  20. Aireboro Bantam

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    This all might be part of Rupp supporting Hopkin. Hopkin may see the benefits in having a much trimmed down squad and therefore we might have to take a financial hit to move players along.

    There is still plenty of time left in the window. The January window is an inflated market so I would understand the club waiting for the right deals. Hopkin has us playing well which has bought time as well. Loans will also have a bearing on what we need so we need clarification on that as well.
     
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