Reevesy is doing OK

Good to hear from him.

Interesting he didn't talk about the past or what he's been through but positive he's looking forward and admires Bowyer which is good.

Still think deeper issues here people like Hopkin didn't help matters.

 

Leave it to the people that know what they are doing.

 

Definitely. From the outside it looks like Hopkin did nothing at all to help the situation. His man management looks to be non-existent.

 

We're a div 2 club and by the sounds of it 2 years out I am not confident we can make statements like that.

 

Which part of the club do you think isn’t being run to a required standard now? I get that things could always improve, that could be said of any club, but which part of Bowyers man management of Reeves are you not happy with? Even the player himself has sung his praises this morning in the T & A.

 

Baffling recovery tactics wanting him kicked up and down the field for 90 minutes. I don't get where the benefits are? Coming from personal experience from serious knee injuries which I had to give up football at 24/25. Having pub players lunging in at you left right and centre is not really the best recovery process. Literally sending him onto a minefield. Will have much more chance of a full recovery with a staggered introduction back to high intensity football.

 

To be fair if it was a physical injury, the best way to get confidence is to be kicked up in the air. (Gazza's quoted something similar) If its mental he needs to be eased back, as he seems to be.

 

If your not confident in the ability of a club like City looking after him why would you be confident that a non league side is going to look after him any better?? Baffling.

 

Think Bowyer is handling it perfectly but we can't say we know what we're doing because it's new to us.

Bowyer has improved a situation which seems was rock bottom but the player has to prove himself.

Facts are he's out of contract and he's been out for nearly 2 years. Now he's well behind because other teams will be like hoes his fitness really.

Look I feel the damage has been done but Reeves and the club will give it their all to benefit themselves now and that just means going up to Div 1. That has to be the ONLY aim for everyone now and a fully fit Reeves helps us achieve that as he's better than some midfielders we have at 80% fit.

 

Someone that knows the game and played it.

100% correct

 

Once again you're making comments you do not have the slightest knowledge about, you have no idea of what Bowyers backroom team have experienced in the jobs over the years they have been doing them,.
At least you now accept Bowyer is handling it perfectly.
Didn't someone say the club have an option on a further 12 months, once again Bowyer and his team will nurse Jake through his immediate return and be quite aware of what Jake can offer the club hopefully in league one.
Bowyer will be the one who tell's Julian/Stefan he thinks Jake would be an asset going forward and thinks the club should take up the option of a further 12 months or more if Jake is happy to stay at our club.

 

I love Gazza - he's my footballing hero but I wouldn't be taking recovery and rehabillitation advice from him.

 

Hopkin's language hardly helped. I'm fine with managers publicly criticising players when they've been rubbish or made a bad decision (i.e. Bowyer on Cooke) but to question a players mental state when they are recovering from an injury, when they will already be pretty 'down' about the situation was rubbish management

It will have no adhered him to any of the then first teamers, i.e. no spirit built and we see where we are

Retrospective viewing is indeed great to be able to do and often unfair, but the difference in man management skills between Hopkin and Bowyer is arguably the biggest I can remember. Bowyer rivals Parky and Jewell for been the most effective (early days though)

Hopkin's was that of the low levels that John Docherty and Jim Jeffries gave us

 

The manager should not be joining in though

I got the impression that Hopkins did this banishing players, questioning Reeves etc, because it got some fans on side

It put me off and I said at the time, that it would only work if the team maintained it's (then) good form - any sliding back and he's nowhere else to go to as he'd introduced an 'us' and 'them' mentality

Bowyer can clearly get frustrated and deliver a rollicking. The difference is, that like Parky and Jewell managed - the players actually appear to be feel bad for letting their gaffer down and hence refocus and improve quickly. The ultimate in good man-management

In fairness to Hopkin, it was the right job but totally in the wrong regime - he had no-one to help or advise him, that he could trust

 

A fit Reeves in L2, has more than a chance.

Remember, the debate about his abilities, two years ago (when we were already five points clear for the L1 play-off positions) was more about whether he was the difference an automatic chasing team needed or whether he was just top 10 standard. With today's medical standards and his attitude, L2 should be cinch for him

 

I've got the popcorn and decent wine, waiting for @Fordy117 to answer

 

Not sure I remember him questioning his mental state although plenty have.

Yes there's a contrast in styles. Bowyer has got us pointing in the right direction granted but I wouldn't say he was particularly effective in the run-in last year. The signing of his new contract effectively marked the point we simply gave up (something that still rankles with me) and we went down with barely a whimper. I'm not sure Parkinson or Jewell would have allowed that. Had Hopkin had come in at the point we were binning it off at starting afresh I'm sure we'd have seen a different approach towards the Reeves situation. His brief was very different, we had a squad underachieving and he needed to provide a jolt. It's far to simplistic to sit back now and say one was right and one was wrong. I'm just trying to provide some balance.

 

I do seem to recall Hopkin suggesting at one point Jake Reeves was being a wuss and making too much of his injury. I can't remember his exact words

 

The players hated the Hopkin regime and that comes straight feom a couple of the players. I get that sometimes you have to be tough with players but lambasting individuals in a team environment is on the whole counterproductive. When a player admits he felt he couldn’t right for doing wrong where can he turn? Always prefer the encouragement route.

 

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