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Plans and Vision

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Kevin1954, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. Bigrod

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    I may be wrong, but l seem to recall that the lease included some form of built in ‘inflation’ component. Basically the rent increased with the rate of inflation, so that pro rata the actual cost to the club remained at market prices.
    Does anyone else have any links to clarify that?
    I also think that the Pension Fund had suggested a sliding scale, but that Julian Rhodes had declined that offer. So the rent was set at Championship levels?
     
  2. Allotment Bantam

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    While we're on the subject of spelling and grammar can people stop saying Rupp is a disinterested owner. He most certainly is not. He has a significant financial interest in the club. He would be disinterested if he was a neutral observer. Uninterested quite possibly and even likely.
     
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    *Of not if. I'll get me coat.....
     
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    Fat fingers. I've corrected it already
     
  5. Rogered Tart

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    I know, couldn't resist. I get loads wrong especially on the phone, bloody thumb keeps pressing the full stop.
     
  6. Loyalbantam

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    That’s not 100% true. Bradford City football club DO NOT have to play their home games at Valley Parade.
    They can play at any stadia that meets EFL standards.
    Whether the fans get on board with the notion is anyone’s guess but we cannot be held to ransom by the PF on the assumption we ‘have nowhere to go’
     
  7. Petrov

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    Anyone else get a Bowie ear worm every time they see this thread title?

    'Don't you wonder sometimes, 'bout plans and vision'
     
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    Well let’s hope if we will never have the opportunity to purchase the ground back, that Sparks is a better negotiator on business property leases than he is with league 2 player contracts otherwise we’ll end up with a 100 year lease, paying 3 times market value for an old knackered stadium.
     
  9. Bigrod

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    More about Sounds! Waiting for the gift of sound and vision!
     
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  10. Petrov

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    With the option of another 100 years in our favour.
     
  11. Stafford Bantam

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    Not until you mentioned it, I didn't. I was more Baldrick than Bowie, until you dropped that one in. ;)
     
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    Honestly, Kevin, I don't understand how you can pretend that MK Dons don't have a style of play.

    The only evidence is that they made one poor appointment? Or that they're losing money?

    What do those have to do with installing a culture and a vision at that club?

    It seems to me what you're actually intending to argue is that because 'having a vision and a plan' doesn't always work, it's not worthwhile?
     
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    I can recall a couple of tales involving two fingers but that was in the darker corners of Annabellas :eek:
     
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    Heard you walked with a squint :worried:
     
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    I believe it increases every 5 years by 15% , so 3% per year,
     
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    Cunning ;)
     
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    Wouldn't it be in Rupps best interest to sell the club before the lease expires, giving any potential new owner a possibility to negotiate the purchase of the stadium before a new lease is signed? Or as stated in the open letter, he could attempt to buy back the stadium before including that in any deal. In terms of building a new stadium, I'd imagine the footprint would be akin to a retail park in size and access, I can't think of anywhere with that amount of space unless it's brownfield land.
    As has been mentioned, the current owner had 8 years to put a plan together, but I doubt he saw himself being here this long, therefore never thought he'd be in the position have to deal with it.
     
  18. Kevin1954

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    Had some great times in there tbf.
     
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    No, you misunderstand me. I'm talking about what's needed, not what I think he'll do. I've been pretty vocal and consistent - I think Rupps statement last week was bluster and PR. I don't think he'll do a damn thing.
     
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  20. Kevin1954

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    Do they recruit to this “ vision and style they have held under Winkleman since 2004?

    If the answer is yes, then Winklemans recruitment policy is garbage.
    If no, then what is the point of having a “ vision and style” that isn’t applied.

    Which one may it be?
     
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