Yeah, but you know what a sneaky bastard he is, if Putin can do it you can bet magic grandpa will find a way....
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Tony Wilkinson Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter P.L. 20/21 Top 10Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...bantamlad92 and trevor like this.
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The likes of Milne together with Murray and Murphy and McCluskey have already stitched up the NEC with Corbynistas and have 'managed' the processes to give an advantage to the candidates, sorry candidate, supported by Momentum and Unite. All of the recent fuss about Starmer's supporters supposedly scaping data from the membership list was all a smokescreen to deflect attention from the real issue that much of the membership data is owned by Momentum and they can control when it is released and to whom. It's been demonstrated already inadvertently that RBL supporters have access to the membership lists but others won't have that access until the next round of voting. It's the way a banana republic might well operate and not a political party which says it believes in democracy.
Perversely, part of me would like to see RLB win the leadership contest. It might then precipitate a realignment of UK politics on the centre-left and produce a genuine and credible opposition which is what the country needs for strong government.trevor and Tony Wilkinson like this. -
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I simply don't understand this English obsession with immigrants. Brexit will limit the number of Poles and Bulgarians but is irrelevant for non-EU immigrants - we were always free to control the flow of those anyway, if we'd chosen to do so. We didn't do so because we need these people to do the jobs that we don't want to do - whether that's wiping bums or picking fruit and veg. We are going to condemn our economy to years of decline outside the EU to satisfy this irrational desire to keep the population of this country looking the same as us, at whatever cost. -
That will be totally different to free movement which we had to go along with whilst in the EU.
We've been through brexit till it's been done to death, I believe the UK negotiators will now be able to negotiate from a far stronger stance and the EU know that, Boris has made it clear it will need to be done by the end of this year which already is making the hierarchies within the EU speak with a different slant on the proposed negotiations, which is hardly surprising now May is no longer any part of the negotiating team.
The 80+ seat majority the Tories now have is a far different position from Theresa May's days as PM and the EU know it , many were predicting dome and gloom using the strength of the £ as an example of devastation brexit would bring yet midweek the £ hit pre the referendum days with regards the Euro.
Nissan say they could do the opposite to what they originally threatened taking manufacturing from the UK to a new stance of more manufacturing within the UK.
I genuinely believe Team Boris will get a good deal for the UK but only time will tell, but the EU cant be in any doubt this government mean business and the clock is ticking.Brackenrigg and trevor like this. -
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The investigation only looked at about 70 of the complaints logged and found interference with about a third of those. Then there was two cases of harassment with another 18 there or there about. Added on the lack of training given after all the leadership statements about it being a priority.
But Corbyn wasn’t suspended for leading any of that but his claims that the problem wasn’t that bad. If there was evidence of a third of all police investigations having been interfered with he would be rightly shouting about it and calling out anyone claiming it wasn’t a real problem -
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Corbyn is so pro Palestine that it blinds him to antisemitism in his own party, He purposely or otherwise blocked or ignored all complaints of antisemitism while he was leader leading to his right demise,
Corbyn has openly called Hamas his friends and applauded there work despite the stated aim of Hamas is the complete destruction of the state of Isreal and the extinction of the Jewish people, How can you support such a view and not be antisemitic, He is a very dangerous man,RCarol and Idlebantam like this. -
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They will start to reclaim it back from the poor and working poor no matter who is in power, Having said that the poor and working poor have always been better off under the Tories, Labour make great speeches but do nothing for them in power, The best they did was the minimum wage but even then the Tories have increased it more than Labour would have I suspect, Labour look at policies as what will win votes rather than what is the right thing to do and the electorate see through this
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What I don't understand is how his line of thought gets put to to one side so easily. It's not even a difficult question!
If Labour believe that the wage rise should be 4% or whatever then just say it......and then explain how it is possible to pay for it.
The issue as always in that the Unions are pushing for the ridiculous (12%!) which is impossible to justify or cost. It puts Starmer in a completely impossible position which is losing his already wafer thin credibility.Tony Wilkinson and Rogered Tart like this. -
Any wonder there is antisemitic violence in London when people like this are encouraging it, sort you own political party out first McDonnell your a disgrace, these people don't need encouragement from the likes of you.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1439832/Labour-Party-John-McDonnell-Palestine-Gaza-ceasefire-Israel-BDS-campaign-latest-news-vn?utm_source=express_newsletter&utm_campaign=politics_evening_newsletter2&utm_medium=email&pure360.trackingid=e153c5f3-c637-4b3a-9aa4-e1a7de71d9d4Offside and Tony Wilkinson like this. -
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Clearly this was the working mans greatest concern when they were knocking on doors in Hartlepool.
I have no doubt there are many there concerned with the situation, however it would be naive to ignore that some are simply there because they harbour anti semitic views and they can hide behind the conflict to express them. After all they never come out for others such as the Uyghurs on China, however if that was repeated in Isreal they no doubt would be out.Tony Wilkinson and Bronco like this. -
There must be a black/Asian gay female or trans that Labour could pick as next leader? Maybe someone from the BBC could do?
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The state of the opposition. And we wonder why the Torys keep getting elected.Tony Wilkinson and Aaron Baker like this. -
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Could be any one of these........................
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