Your analysis is spot on. It's sickening to see people who, quite reasonably criticise Israel's illegal land grabs and apartheid approach to Palestinians labelled as anti-Semitic.
Corbyn isn't anti-Semitic and he is correct that the impression given by the press that the LP is riddled with large numbers of antisemites is a politically motivated smear. However, there is a small, hardcore, vocal anti-Semitic minority on the furthest left end of the party who have made life miserable for some Jewish members. Corbyn dithered about dealing with that minority, probably because they were his supporters, and stood back while his senior appointees meddled and fudged investigations into legitimate complaints.
It was perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain that the LP needed to respond to the recent damning report by saying 'mea culpa' and making a clean break from that period. By quibbling and seeking to minimise his previous (in)actions Jeremy Corbyn has compromised the necessary clean break message and put his own interests ahead of those of the party.
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Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd PlaceRogered Tart, Craven Cottager, trevor and 2 others like this.
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Labour are shooting themselves in the foot again.WilsdenBantam, Bronco, Idlebantam and 1 other person like this. -
The crazy thing is the person behind Zionism didn't even want the state of Isreal to be where it is now, he realised that Jews have never been the dominate people in that region (even in the various holy books they are always portrayed as a minority group who are persecuted and are largely nomadic because of that) and as all 3 of the major religions all hold it as sacred land it would be massively problematic, he favoured Argentina, where there was/, is lots of land that is basically uninhabited and would hence cause conflict. As it was we let Jewish Terrorist force us to gift them what is modern Isreal and then they proceeded to be bullies, annexing land as they see fit and acting like they are superior to the rest of the Middle-east which is a big reason they are pretty much treated as part of Europe in a number of walks of life. The majority of the Israeli population (and actually most jews) have no more Middle-eastern heritage than anyone else which makes their claims to the land even more suspect, Judaism didn't really take off until it reached Europe and as such most modern Jews are about as European in heritage as they come. That's why they relate more to Europeans and why they gravitate to being part of Europe and not part of the middle east because they, in general, they share more culture with Europeans than the middle-east. Imagine how much better this would could be if extremists hadn't hijacked the Zionist movement and they had got their land elsewhere where there was less chance of conflict rather than getting it where they did where they just act as a schoolyard bullyStop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...RCarol, Craven Cottager, Aaron Baker and 1 other person like this. -
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It is about time the Labour Party had a female leader.
So it will be a comfortable win for Sir Keir Starmer then.Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Idlebantam, Storck and Bronco like this. -
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Wrong Daily has the brown shirt behind her. Anyone who speak ill of Corbyn and Corbyn without a beard will be vilified on social media and hounded round the country by this lot.
Anyone notice how there are no kids sleeping on hospital floors now we are not in the run up to an election?Bronco, NorthernMonkey and trevor like this. -
Just Google present and past Labour MPs who have attended private schools or have put their children through private education starting with the present leader, Diane Abbott, Emiley Thornberry, James Schneider, Seumas Milne, Shami Chakrabarti, Valerie Vaz , Keir Starmer Reigate Grammar which at the time was voluntary aided.
Labour were in power for 13 years with a bigger majority than Boris and could have done so much more for the ordinary Joe, so maybe on reflection the privately educated debate is really a nonsense.Idlebantam, Berkshire-bantam and trevor like this. -
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But really, Corbyn's image is in the toilet due to an ongoing, highly effective smear campaign. A lot of people have told me they 'can't stand' Corbyn (or worse), and the reasons are just Daily Mail headlines or some tosh about the IRA.
Corbyn lost, primarily, due to dithering around Brexit and because his own party was in disarray - but equally, because his campaign against Johnson wasn't anywhere near as fierce as the endless nonsense directed at Corbyn through the tabloids and then through the dimwits on social media that read those tabloids and mindlessly share nonsensical/factually challenged memes.
Again, I do not believe for one second that even a quarter of the people that 'hate' Corbyn actually have a valid reason for doing so. The fact people spoke through gritted teeth and frothed at the mouth at the mention of the word 'socialism' but don't know what it means tells you all you need to know. A soundbyte electorate ready to dislike something the second they're told to. Meanwhile, here we are today, and Corbyn hasn't said a thing wrong about coronavirus or the response to it, at least to my knowledge, and more and more businesses are desperate for a slice of socialism now that they're no longer wrapped head to toe in their bubble wrap of financial decadence and security.
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That gift that keeps on giving? Never stops. Starmer has his work cut out ridding the party of its past. One day they'll work out how this stuff works.Berkshire-bantam, Idlebantam and Offside like this. -
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They're really struggling to gain traction with their messaging and they're falling into the path of being Utopian idealists again which is always their downfall.
Over the last couple of months they've pushed for
- Longer and higher furlough
- More business support
- Increased wages for NHS staff
- The increase in universal credit to be made permanent
Even to the point where they were pushing back against an increase in corporation tax - a policy that has actually been at the heart of a lot of their policies for years! Until they can actually bring arguments to the table above and beyond "we want more for everybody!!" then they're just going to flounder regardless of what the Tories do.YungNath, Rogered Tart and Bronco like this. -
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So what, it's a shame but we are not responsible for the welfare of the whole planet, hardly anyone in the UK would give this a second thought...Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Offside, Bronco and Aaron Baker like this. -
Did anyone see the Labour MP Nadia Whittomes interview on TV today? Wouldn't condem the violence against the police today, do Labour choose these MPs to make them completely unelectable to the general public?
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