mark lawn

It's not in any way relevant to what I said though.

 

Sure it is.

You inferred Parkinson alone bailed out Lawn, and prevented him from taking stick from City fans.

But there's no reason that couldn't have also happened for Edin, except that obviously Edin is Edin and there's no way Parkinson would ever work for a guy like that.

 

Parkinson being unable to work with Rahic doesn't change the fact that Lawn pre-PP was making plenty of the same mistakes that Rahic has and if he'd continued to do so would have been the one taking stick.

 

The Jackson/Christie era was a shocker, but Lawn at least ended that pretty sharpish and got shut of everyone connected to that, bringing in Parkinson and a full team and letting Parky completely gut the work that had gone before. All those crap kids were dismissed within a year, weren't they?

Unfortunately, Rahic isn't savvy enough to do the same.

That's ultimately the difference.

I'm sure Rahic thinks the only reason we're failing is because he appointed the wrong coach.

 

Yep. As soon as Parkinson came in it all changed but as I clearly said I was talking about before Parkinson came in.

Jackson and Christie was a shocker from start to finish. Nearly put us out of the league. Completely agree.

What about the Taylor era?

Or the first McCall era?

All sparking successes, yes?

 

The first McCall era wasn't bad, but was extended beyond requirement - so it ended rather miserably, unfortunately.

The Taylor era was about as average as I remember a City side. We just weren't anything at that point.

What's concerning the most is you compare the patterns:

Lawn: Stuart-Taylor-Jackson-Parkinson (okay, dour, awful, outstanding)

Rahic: Stuart-Grayson-Collins-Hopkin (decent, dour, awful, awful)

This Hopkin appointment really needs to be the Edin Rahic version of a Parkinson, only he did away with all three previous managers in much shorter order, to a man. If Hopkin turns this round next season, and we achieve Parkinson-esque results, Rahic will probably be saved as Lawn 'was'.

But almost every detail is more extreme. The dissatisfaction is way higher now than then. The management tenures are way shorter. The number of overhauls is more frequent (assuming Hopkin changes most of this side in the Summer). The amount of interference from above has been way higher.

It's all magnified, and it's not serving us well at all.

 

If we're judging the first McCall era as "not bad" when we failed to crack the league two play offs places for 3 years and finished up 16th in league two then I suppose we've got quite some way to fall before this era actually becomes "bad".

You're bringing it back to current day Rahic - as pretty much every thread currently does. That wasn't my point however. It was simply that Lawn should be grateful that they eventually stumbled across Parkinson as prior to that he was the Yorkshire version of Rahic and would probably have been in a similar position to Edin now.

 

I don't remember him being this unpopular, or even getting close.

I remember him getting some grumbles, but that's about it.

Edin Rahic seems to be pretty much universally hated, largely due to the fact he seems to be pretty much universally hated by every former member of staff/playing squad that's left the club and spread gossip.

 

We probably just had lower expectations (see consistently missing league two play offs and being 16th in league two laughably being viewed as "not bad") and he got a bit of leeway because he was a local boy done good and a genuine fan which is probably understandable.

In terms of decisions though there isn't much Rahic has done which wasn't replicated under Lawn before Parkinson. Falling attendances, regressive results, accusations of interference, bizarre appointments, falling out with managers, etc, etc.

If Rahic starts talking about moving to Odsal and threatening to put the club into administration then I might actually start to think they're the same person!

 

Well if Rahic has made all the mistakes Lawn made, he's certainly done it a lot quicker and in a more condensed fashion.

Also, Lawn's job was to ARREST a decline, he didn't actually start one. Rahic was arrested season-upon-season progression and not even gradually - the more things have become Edin-ified, the faster we've plummeted.

 

In terms of the timescales isn't the difference just that Rahic gave McCall one season less? Other than that the synchronisation in the appointments is probably scarily similar.

100%. Edin is fecking it up. No arguments. Just wanted to point out that so was Lawn before PP came in.

 

Don't know how anyone can compare Lawn to Edin other than maybe because he was outspoken from time to time but did Lawn ever say he knew football and interfere with the playing side of things NO. Did he go along spouting it's basically his way or no way and if you dont tow the line your gone like Mccall and other staff behind the scenes were NO. Yes he made a mistake appointing Jacko whose management career was already done back then but at least he rectified that got parky in and let him do the job to move forward can anyone see hopkin having that sort of freedom to do the same because I honestly can't.

 

Aaron is one of a kind that is quickly becoming extinct.

Pretty much everybody can now see Rahic for what he really is.

 

He is quite right to have his own opinion but to compare Edin with Lawn is laughable on so many levels.

 

I'll be honest I misunderstood their question. When they said 'Do we need to focus on better grass' I thought.... 'hell yeah. I'll need some of that gear to get through watching the shite we're serving up'.

My bad.

 

From my understanding (very basic on financial matters) edin put 250k upfront and rupp 750k the rest of the money was loaned from a company owned by rupp to the company who bought the club and he receives his money back on a monthly basis at a higher rate.

On a separate note
We sold wyke for 1 million pound
We bought Doyle for 300k
What happened to the 700 k ?

 

Yes, he did interfere (which clearly infers that he had football knowledge) and yes he did upset people behind the scenes...most openly McCall who specifically thanked Rhodes when he left but ommitted to mention Lawn.

 

Why? Where have I praised Rahic? Show me.

 

Is Rupp taking money out of the club's income to repay the loan?

I get Rahic is doing this to an extent, but I hadn't realised our main owner is also taking this approach.