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True. There is no guarantee to anything in life but from my own perspective my father was my role model in life and he showed me what it was to respect the lives of others. Never committed an offence in his life bar a parking ticket,.ironically on the fateful day of May 11th 1985. I've never been arrested for anything and I'm very sure my son wont either. A good role model in life goes a very long way.

 

they did that. When the van went wrong side of the 606 the police didn’t follow.

Only one set of people to blame for the crash and that is them in the van

 

Sentenced today.

3 people dead and this 16 year old will be free before he is 20.

Absolute joke of a sentence.

 

Tin hat on time Tone but there is a correlation between cutting youth services to the bone and having a policy of trying to reduce crime in teenage years. It's not the full answer, but cutting public services has had a detrimental effect on all parts of society. As I've explained in a previous post a lot of these 'feral youth' have been dragged up by the seat of their pants and have no leadership in their lives. This is prevalent to the crash the other night. Lack of family structure is a big problem in society as is a nanny state that allows these kids to walk around undisciplined.

 

All we needed at that age RT was daylight, green grass and a football....

 

Honestly Trev, you are talking absolute nonsense.

Social workers perform vital roles in the fields of:
Child Protection
Adoption
Mental Health
Learning Disabilities
Older People

If you believe that social workers simply invent problems to solve with these groups then you are living in La La Land. Problems abound and are getting worse and more numerous because of the collapsing state of the economy and public services.
Who do you think should help all these people, if not social workers? As someone once said, 'If social workers didn't exist, we'd have to invent them'.

I can only assume that you have had some kind of bad experience with a social worker that has led you to make generalised, erroneous assumptions about what most actually do. Either that, or you have absolutely no clue about what they do and are simply making stuff up.

 

Sympathy for van occupants....NIL.
Sympathy for taxi occupants....PLENTY.

 

After reading this thread spent some time on the T&A reading... Then stupidly on Facebook. Theres people sticking up for the lads that stole the van. Bradford really does have its share of nobheads. Really sad for both lads in the taxi that have had their lives stollen for no reason.

There are plenty of ways to show how upset you are at society without stealing a van and killing people.

 

Bound to be blamed on police.

Bet he never did anything wrong, was a lovely young boy

 

Dreadful story.

Imagine getting a taxi home and that happens, you and the driver.

No words for it.

Nobody wins, absolutely nobody.

 

As I understand it, the police did not follow the van when the 15 year old driver drove the wrong way round the roundabout and headed north on the southbound carriageway of the M606.

 

The parents are far from blameless in this. Which kind of parents don't give too hoots about where their 15 year old son is on a weekday night at 10.45pm.

Karma would mean the 3 in the van would be the ones who are dead, but no it's a hard working chef and taxi driver.

Stealing the van is probably like stealing someones livelyhood too. Whoevers van it was it is likely they are a man/woman of trade and their business is an after thought to an adrenaline rush. Scumbags.

 

Unfortunately on release going straight back into what he did before. This lad was a walking timebomb, no role model from an early age and surrounded by crime as though it was the norm. There are thousands of kids just like him that are brought up knowing nothing but a life tagged to criminality. I know how and why he had the skills to steal a vehicle and why that wasn't wrong to him. We as a society have gone soft on crime, that we pass the blame to others, this in turn has created a generation of youth who clearly have no respect for anyone or anything. And when we have liars and criminals in the top echelons on society what hope is there at the bottom when crime is gloryfied to a point where it does actually pay?

 

We have been soft on crime for years with the result of huge increases. Take a sentence of life imprisonment you will probably serve 7 to 10 years. All sentences reduced by half. Only half of crimes fully investigated and the police themselves saying there is only 5% chance of being caught. We have allowed the do gooders and social left wing to allow the country to think crime is normal

 

OK, come then - which professionals exactly could do the job that social workers do in mental health? Or in Learning disabilities? Or in older people's services?
Be specific. If you're saying that social workers are unnecessary in these fields, tell us exactly who else can replace the work that SWs do and what credentials they have to do it.

And what exactly is this higher level experience that you have of managing and funding social work? Because from where I'm sitting it sounds like you have very little idea of what most social workers actually do and why their role is both essential and different from (eg) nurses and doctors.

 

Just read about this. 3 lives needlessly lost. Extremely sad.