M606 crash

We have been soft on crime for years with the result of huge increases. Take a sentence of life imprisonment you will probably serve 7 to 10 years. All sentences reduced by half. Only half of crimes fully investigated and the police themselves saying there is only 5% chance of being caught. We have allowed the do gooders and social left wing to allow the country to think crime is normal

 

Absolutely this.

The Tory Party has been in power for twelve years and has systematically driven this country into the ground:

- Largest sustained fall in real incomes in living memory.
- NHS has gone from the most efficient it's ever been to teetering on the verge of collapse.
- Every aspect of public services falling apart at the seams.
- Transport systems a national disgrace everywhere except London.
- Water, gas and electricity prices multiple times higher than they were in 2010 - and that's before the recent increases due to the Ukraine war.
- Gap between rich and poor higher than it's ever been.
- Massive fall in the number of crimes even getting to court, let alone successfully prosecuted.
- Etc, etc, ad nauseum.

The sheer scale of the incompetence is utterly breathtaking. Just how bad do things have to get before people realise that they don't have a clue what they're doing?

 

I have no argument about the lack of this and previous governments lack of ability and action in the criminal area to save money you are both right in that respect, But governments of all colours have been woeful on catching and prosecuting criminal acts, Remember the slogan? Tough on crime, Tough on the causes of crime, A sick joke if ever there was one, We have decriminalised a lot of offences including drug offences ignoring crimes the public care about while having an obsession with the easy pickings of road crimes, We are fast living in a sick society brought on by left wing social workers and do gooders on the side of the criminal not the victim

 

The government follows the guidelines that are set by committees of social worker led bodies that recommend soft treatment of crime and that criminals are victims of a cruel society. As for the M606 case the judge was tied because instead of bringing a charge of manslaughter with a dangerous weapon they charged him with a driving offence for an easy conviction to make the conviction records look good which is all they care about not victims. It was not the judges fault a soft CPS charged him with a lessor offence with a lower sentence tariff By rights he should have got life with 20 years

 

Spot on. I met an awful lot of social workers during my 32 years in the profession. I've been on national steering groups and I've been personal friends for over 30 years with the current Chief Social Worker for England & Wales. I've never met a single SW who's been involved in developing sentencing policy for criminals.
Social Workers are always the last profession in the queue when it comes to the ear of government. I know from bitter personal experience that, even when social workers have vital roles and massive expertise in certain areas (eg the pivotal role of the Approved Mental Health Professional in the mental health legal system) their views are either not sought by government when making changes, or are ignored in favour of doctors' and lawyers' perspectives.

The idea that social workers are influencing the courts' sentencing guidelines is beyond hilarious.

 

Norway has a maximum sentence of 15 years for any crime I believe and has a fraction of the recidivism rates we have

 

The government may set the guidelines but then undermines them by halving the sentence given The CPS if it process to court which it often does not even bother at all with offences some serious crimes and will pick a lower charge on the basis easier to prove and get a conviction even if a lower sentence is the result.
Am coming round to thinking that the need for social workers increases with the amount we employ. We should just do away with them altogether apart from a few child abuse specialists working with the police. Same with parole officers which achieve little. Criminals are either ready to lbe released or stay in prison or maybe a half way hostel if they have earned it.

 

Where do social workers fit into this narrative? Which social workers, working with whom?

 

Legislation really needs to be passed that allows people to slap the shit out of the absolute lowlife scum that insist on doing 30mph in a 40 zone.
Fcking imbeciles

 

Am not an appologists for governments because they are ultimately the cause of how we are with weak decisions and lack of funding.

 

And cyclists. Subhuman scum.

 

Not a cyclist hater per se. But CyclingMikey on Twitter/YouTube makes me want to.

 

Wtf? Brought on by 'left wing social workers'?

What are you talking about?

 

I'm assuming it's just buzz words Trevor doesn't understand, but I'm prepared to await an answer.