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George Floyd copper

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Keefly Bantam, May 31, 2020.

  1. SimonW

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    I would be surprised though with the US also having such a lawsuit culture if it's not unusual for a cop who had been on the force that long to have that many complaints TBH. Especially if they are in a district with a high level of things like street gangs where to paraphrase @Faithful Bantam@Faithful Bantam bantam 'Acting like a Twit' is almost required to get any kind of respect rather than just being walked over by them by being nice and going by the book.
     
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  2. River_City_Bantam

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    Yes, that feeling has become very clear over the past decade or two, hasn't it. Only people of a certain type are both racist, and never the victims of racism themselves! Of all the counter-arguments I could come up with, here's a few:

    1) from a Canadian context, one should look at how Indians, both on reservations and off, consider non-Indians, and especially how Indian women who married a non-Indian were treated by their reservations as compared to Indian men who married non-Indians.

    2) from back home, my Mum and Aunt remember the various African nurses they trained and worked with, including a pair who really looked down their noses at Caribbean nurses: "They're no good...they're not properly black anymore...their blood has been diluted!"

    3) Consider (South-East) Asian history, and how the various groups there (Vietnamese / Laotians / Chinese / Thais / etc.) view each other.

    I suppose it's fair to say we, whoever the 'we' happens to be, have an inbuilt tendency to be more comfortable with our own kind of people, however you want to define 'kind,' and to have therefore a feeling of being 'better' than all others. And I suppose it is also fair to say that often we do not, and have not, kept such feelings within reasonable bounds.

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  3. Offside

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    Facts starting to emerge now about the victim of the police murder, not a very nice person with the amount of violent convictions he's had down the years , including robbing a pregnant women at gunpoint . This in no way justifys is murder , but in my opinion sheds light on the problems faced in the USA .
     
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  4. SimonW

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    That can’t be true, his family all say he was such a nice and kind guy /s

    It is one of the problems, not only does the fact that most deaths by cop happen to someone who was committing a crime at the time but their family and friends always try and spin it in them being these wonderful human beings so it comes across totally unprovoked meaning they don’t have to face the contributing factors that they could as a community take steps to combat.

    We saw the same here in 2011 with Mark Duggan, a guy well known to authorities as a drug dealer and co-founder of a notorious gang who had been under surveillance and was armed at the time of him being but ofc it was totally unprovoked as he was a good family just because his family, friends and community didn’t want to have to face facts and would rather put all the blame on others.
     
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    Until the underlying social, economic and cultural factors are examined without constraint or prejudice, nothing will be resolved. In fact, the increasingly left wing, woke approach to tackling racial issues will lead to a very bad place for many people, in my opinion.
     
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    Like i mentioned this is the problem in the USA , i have said the murder was shocking and unjustified , but a white Police officer was shot dead yesterday no outrage . I would never want to live in America , the land of the free etc etc . The fact millions around the world jumping on this as another example of racism are wrong . I was on FB yesterday , Bradford City used a blank page as a message of support to the "Black lives matter " i said all lives matter , i recieved tons of abuse and threats , called a racist etc , i also posted that a child in Africa dies every minute through lack of food - clean water - basic hygene , which is why i donate monthly to Oxfam and save the Children , but i'm still a racist because i questioned the need by our club to have a blank screen . 99% of the " outrage " is symbolism , a need to feel shock and upset at an event that i can't influence . There were 3 other Police officers at the scene who could have stopped the white officer murdering Floyd , 1 a mexican 1 from Somalia 1 was Asian but nothing ( apart from being sacked ) is said . I do feel sorry for the way he died , but this happens every hour everyday in the USA.
     
  7. Bronco

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    Just reading an article that George Floyd was trying to pass a counterfeit $20 bill and the store where he was trying to pass it called the police, apparently Floyd was still in the area when the cops came and we know the rest, the shop owner is now worried for his shop and his employees as they have had threats with regards calling the police.
     
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  8. How

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    Add to that the shooting of Yassar Yaqub by police on the m62. He was such a good lad and a family man.
     
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    You known what is also ridiculous with the BLM movement. This..

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    They care so much about protecting Black lives that they encourage and organise protests DURING A BLOODY GLOBAL PANDEMIC. A global pandemic where there is evidence that Black people seem to be more likely to develop serious complications from it.

    And if anyone of them people attending the protest complaining about Dominic Cummings they deserve to die as what they are doing is a million times worse, they are not only putting themselves at risk but also others. Stupid brain dead people
     
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    Madness isn’t it. But logic, common sense and reason don’t really feature in the narrative. The BLM movement isn’t principally about the safety and well-being of the black community. If it were, it would have a different focus, agenda and approach.
     
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    Dont forget if / when the 2nd wave comes its the Governments fault .
     
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    The very faces of those people screaming to hold Dominic Cummings to account are the sort that will either be at Hyde Park or ones encouraging this sort of feckwittery. Kinda sums it all up really.
     
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    Police getting attacked , been accused of being Racist , christ these people are thick and deluded .
     
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    It kicked off a bit at the protest earlier. Throwing stuff at police and then expecting them to just stand and take it. Pathetic
     
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    The organisers should be held to account for every death that results from this protest.

    Quite ironic that in about 14 days a good number of these people who are BAME will be needing some sort of hospital treatment. and eventually statistically are more likely not to make it.

    Let's infect thousands of people that will likely kill hundreds in the coming weeks because we are outraged that one man was killed. Now lets go about killing some more eh?

    Maybe this is natural selection at its finest?
     
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    If thousands of Liverpool fans congregated outside Anfield's locked gates in the coming weeks, they would be roundly condemned and dispersed. So how come crowds are allowed to congregate in London with no concern for social distancing
     
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    Now knowing what i know about where the virus spreads then that protest is the perfect breeding ground. But if it isnt Dominic Cummings then it not on their agenda.
     
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    Where is Corbyn? Not like him to miss a protest :)
     
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    Think he’s organised a doorstep one for tonight...... seriously
     
  20. SimonW

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    Which one? Piers is probably protesting elsewhere about 5G towers being the cause of coronavirus as part of a governmental conspiracy to give them the excuse to turn the country into an Orwellian utopia
     
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