George Floyd copper

I don't care if they make you feel that way. That's your issue not mine.

 

It's you that doesn't get it but you're not the only one. Nowhere has FB inferred that black lives don't matter, the opposite in fact if you bother to read his posts in an intellectual way. But to try and defeat evils in society then the colour of skin is only one prejudice that affects a certain demographic. Its still not been proved, and can't be without actual evidence, that the attack on George Floyd was because of the colour of his skin.

 

I'll leave you too your agenda...When I read you supporting the BLM campaign or saying sportive things about black people then I might have a different view.

I don't see any positive in you spinning your agenda at this time but you continue. Good luck to you but hopeful people are not small minded enough to let you brain wash them and understand that the BLM campaign is vastly important and racism is in this country which need stamping out.

Make a difference in the right way!

 

And maybe that's why you post as you do in this subject. Don't care how people feel.

 

The BBC have said the police are looking into the situation , if they prosecute over this banner it will open a can of worms . Will the Police / Government form a commitee to decide what is ok to display and what is not ? This is dangerous territory , this is going to esculate to levels of violence never seen before in this country . Freedom of speech and expression is 1 of the basic fundamental rights in the UK , the BLM and media have set back race relations in this country 20 years . The debate should be opened up and discussed , it should be discussed in a civillised constructive manner , not as currently if you don't agree your a racist , i'm not so worried about myself , i'm worried about the kids and grandkids of future generations of all race creed and colour .

 

I didn't say that I don't care how people feel. I said I don't care how you feel. And that's not because I wish you to feel badly, its because I know I'm not setting out to insult anyone, you're clearly misunderstanding or not reading my views properly and therefore, its on you, not me.

I have no agenda - beyond wanting an open dialogue to explore a complex problem, where people are free to express reasonably held and articulated views. That's it.

The irony here Fordy is that I haven't attempted to brainwash anyone, but from YOUR posts, it looks to me that you've been swept up in a media narrative, spouting hyperbole and insult without being able to articulate it. And this might blow your mind - but you're guilty of at least a form of racism more so than anyone on this thread. You've generalized people on the basis of skin colour, assumed my own skin based on my opinions, suggested people aren't qualified to hold an opinion on certain matters based on their skin colour. All of these, to my mind have an element racial prejudice. My own view is that a persons beliefs and opinions aren't defined by their skin colour, but hey ho.

 

You're right. I've no doubt that the banner was intended to cause offence, it was unnecessary and provocative. I'm not defending it, but its not illegal. Free Speech is paramount in a free democracy, and its being eroded. That never leads anywhere good.

 

This flying banner has caused offence.I agree
if it meant white lives matter more than black
It is offensive beyond measure.

What if along with the justified outrage at George
Floyd's death, this banner was a sort of demonstration
that the murder of 3 white guys in a Reading park also
deserved recognition?

 

I was thinking about this last night. In Burnley's statement, they said those responsible would face lifetime bans, but I'm not sure on what grounds this is plausible? I've seen some nonsense over social media even claiming that "white lives matter" is a racist comment and Burnley themselves implied this was a racist act. If these fans got issued bans and took this through the courts, it could get very messy. You can't claim the phrase "white lives matter" is racism whilst condoning the phrase "black lives matter".

 

Rather an ironic comment, you openly say you dont care what fellow poster think with regards your posts, your not on here to see how many likes you recieve.

 

I wasn't aware the banner had been flown. I put the game on 10min in and to be honest if the media hadn't blown it up so it was the main sport story this morning whilst I was wanting to know the league 2 play off results I probably wouldn't have seen it and I would have preferred it that way.

The media are part of the reason this is snowballing and putting race relations back 20 years.

And before anyone jumps on me, the media have pushed it both ways with highlighting Antifa hijacking and vandalism which has overshadowed peaceful protests.

 

What a mess this thread has become. Jesus

 

Did that banner break any laws, not an appropriate thing to do in the present climate, but I'm not sure what they could charge either the plane company or individual with.

 

This was my thoughts exactly , he hasen't broke any current laws , which is why i said this could open a can of worms . The normal rule of thumb is if you ban something it 9 times out of 10 , makes the situation worse . The Government rule by consent not by who shouts the loudest .

 

They could tenuously link him with the breaking of some law but technically he hasn't done anything wrong, albeit ill advised and more of an attention seeker by the looks of it.

 

I asked a similar question above, not a clever thing to do but not sure what law it broke, were these protesters arrested for their banners ?.

 

It's a dangerous precedent for the police and CPS to chase this as incitement, completely stupid what he did but surely not chargeable? Can you imagine the wave of prosecutions that would need to be dealt with if this was classed as incitement?

 

A very slippery slope to go down, is my above post not the same "incitement" those protesting knew exactly what was printed on their banners was incitement but where does free speech stop.