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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bantam cook 81, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Bantam cook 81

    Bantam cook 81 Fringe Player

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    Ok so in the morning the lads are back it's a fresh start new players coach etc.
    I haven't always agreed at the club how we are run but it's time to move forward from last season now and support the current and new players.
     
  2. JimmyBantam

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    Agreed. What's done is done. This is the start of a new chapter which may or may not be a successful one however we need to give it a chance.

    Football supporters by their very nature are impatient and we are all guilty at times of demanding immediate success. For me the timing of this new strategy at the club wasn't the best - especially when we appeared to be on the cusp of making the step up to the Championship. However, it's been/being implemented now so let's suck it up and get on with backing the lads from this point forward.

    Patience will be key!
     
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  3. Steve1970

    Steve1970 Squad Player
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    This time next year we will be looking forward to seeing championship teams to Valley parade don't forget Edins promise boys and girls :)
     
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  4. Campbell's soup

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    I’m still massively underwhelmed by the HC appointment, as well as Drury and Abbott. They can sign all the ‘decent’ players they like but it’s down to management and coaching to make them into team - this is where we are going to fall short next season imo.
     
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  5. bantam65

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    I agree totally with the OPs sentiment but the cynic in me can't help but wonder if he/she isn't one of Edins sleeper cell.
    ;);)
     
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  6. Sergio Pinto III

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    Tried the legend, tried the League One mastermind, maybe time to try something different rather than a perennial failure. We have to accept Edin has a model and that is the way it is. Collins and the other two have bought into that model so that ticks a huge box if anything.

    Coaching shouldn't be a problem, I know someone in the club who really rates Drury as a coach.
     
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  7. Campbell's soup

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    Fair enough - but my opinion is that this isn’t Edin’s model, rather a ‘panic’ appointment.
     
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  8. marshy77

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    It might not be 'the' appointment but it fits in with the model.
     
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  9. Campbell's soup

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    So does that make it the right appointment?
     
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    For the model and direction we are going yes. Is it the person that Edin had in mind? I don't think so.
     
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  11. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter
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    Time will tell
     
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  12. Bronco

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    I tend to agree, even though they came with different ideas of how they thought the club should be run IMO I'd have hoped they would have introduced their ideas and changes as and when appropriate, certainly with regards the footballing side.
    Even though they say their model is a head coach who is there to blend players into a winning, atractive footballing side. they didnt have the belief in their convictions or they would have done it from the off, Parkinson out and a head coach in, instead of bringing McCall back (to pacify fans) and bringing their own head coach in and going with their model from day one.
    In hindsight it has been two wasted seasons the first team IMO are not as good as the one Parky had at the end of season 2015/16 the development lads have yet to bear fruit one or two have potencial but as yet I cant see any going for the sort of money many were hoping for.
    New season new hopes as usual I believe the team/ coaching team will get the full backing of the fans let's hope the new way works out, August will certainly be a challenging month.
     
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  13. Petrov

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    Impossible to say before a ball has even been kicked but I would argue that having a coaching team that fully buy into the model has more chance of being the right appointment than having a head coach and support staff that don't.
     
  14. Jimmylivesnextdoor

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    Only time will tell. It’s blatantly obvious that Collins is a panic appointment because nobody else wanted to work under the Microscope that is Edin Rahic. Collins is the gaffer now so all we can do is get behind him and the lads and see what they can deliver.
     
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  15. Campbell's soup

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    As you say Park - time will tell.
     
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  16. Idlebantam

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    Funnily enough, I feel more optimistic about the coming season, that I did on the eve of last season, when we were losing some good players, and not replacing them adequately. The blow of losing at Wembley was probably still festering though, to be honest The saga of not replacing McArdle last summer was a real downer at the time. It was a big surprise that we started the season so well, but I was never confident of it lasting, due to the pretty poor home performances served up.
    Hopefully, the new coaches will have some good new fresh ideas, whilst also making us more solid and difficult to beat.
    I am pleased with the keeper and defensive recruits, still think we need at least 1 more central midfield player, and 1 more striker, 2 if Charlie Boy leaves.
    I am sure there will still be a bit of movement in and out before the window closes in August
     
  17. Sergio Pinto III

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    Disagreeing there.

    a) 2016/2017 went one further and got to the play off final
    b) 2016/2017 played much more attractive football
    c) 2015/2016 starting 11 was built around loans - Burke, Evans, Cullen, Reid, Proctor where as 2016/2017 only had Cullen and Hiwula as regulars.

    2016/2017 was a great first season for the new owners and we came the closest yet to promotion. To call it a wasted season is nonsensical I am afraid.
     
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    Why ?? Who do you think will get relegared .:D
     
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  19. Two Legs

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    If we’ve recruited well we’ll have a good season and Edin will be king. If we’ve recruited badly we will have a poor season and it’s Edin’s fault. It’s clear that MC was chosen as a last resort but for me the recruitment of players is so much more important than the coach. If they are good players we’ll be saying that this MC looks pretty good. If we’ve recruited poor players we’ll be saying well what did we expect appointing the least experienced coach we could find. If it does start badly we need to get behind them. It’s gonna be a long season. If it turns toxic we all lose. It’s not ideal but it is what it is.
     
  20. Campbell's soup

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    Didn’t work for Bury last season though. They, on paper, looked to have recruited well but couldn’t get them firing as a team.
     
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