European Super league

The same CEO that sacked Pochetino after getting them to a champions league final?

 

So cynical that the ESL clubs have concocted and announced this at this time. In normal circumstances there would be massive demonstrations outside and inside grounds with high visibility on Sky, BT, MOTD and no doubt covered on prime time news. But with no fans in grounds the remaining PL games just carry on in near silence as before with the real fans nowhere to be seen until the planned start of the ESL in August.

 

The clue is after. And they lost.
I think most people expected Mourinho to get the chop at the end of the season. But why would they do it just before a Wembley final?

 

Interesting slant from the Guardian news feed yesterday:
Rob Baxter emails with some thoughts on how all this might be stopped: “While there are limits on what the government will be able to do, one simple act (Brexit bonus?) would be to prohibit (or limit) working visas to overseas players associated with unrecognised leagues, meaning non-UK workers couldn’t train or play in the UK for any of the breakaway sides, and those overseas clubs wouldn’t be able to come in to play unless they were exclusively UK citizens. Though the Glazers might be happy with having to move United out of Manchester and off to Dubai, removing the need to spend money on renovating Old Trafford, Tottenham would probably be less keen on mothballing a billion pound white elephant. The logical endpoint is, of course, no home grounds for any of the clubs, and they jet off around the world playing exhibition matches in different countries, which is ‘the product’ certain owners want. That eats into training time, increases fatigue, and generally means that they’ll be playing fewer matches at a lower performance quality, often impaired by unusual conditions. You can’t expect players to perform at their best whilst constantly jetlagged or working what their body considers a night shift - the concept would be self-defeating from a competition, quality and player welfare perspective.”.

 

Because Levy is ruthless. Hence the comment regarding Poch's sacking. Spurs are probably the club to benefit most from being invited to a super league. They spend less than anybody else and their whole set up is based around maximising profit before even thinking about winning anything. Worst thing about their invitation is they are just there to make up the numbers. If Real or Barcelona aren't winning everything every year we'll just keep changing the format until they do. The one thing we value as fans in this country is our league set up. The most exciting top league in the world and the most competitve division below it. The rest of Europe, the world in fact, do not have anything like it. Unfortunately the owners, predominantly from the US, do not. They believe in their franchise type system where you can only buy a place at the big table.

 

Ah the Glazers, at the very forefront of everything thats bad about modern day football. I read a comment from Kieran Maguire the other day that since them and ED Woodward have been at the club they have paid out £837 million in interest payments. That from a club that was pretty much self sufficient before. And its the same route the likes of Liverpool are going down, Arsenal have been doing similar for years. And yet Florentino Perez complains of Real going bankrupt. Don't forget what some of these clubs do in their pursuit of wealth, Arsenal laid off their mascot, Man Utd were even challenged to pay their staff the living wage. Christ, a club that is hemorahging money to owners and banks will even screw those at the very bottom. These owners are parasites, i would happily see football collapse as a business if it meant a complete restructuring of the game. Unfortunately the game has gone, runied by greed by the very people that run the game.

 

I think the timing was more due to the Champions League reorganisation that should have been announced yesterday. The ESL, how quick for that to stick, had to move in advance of that announcement as they couldn’t be seen to publicly endorse it and then complain after

 

the Man Utd - Barcelona game will be more interesting than at least 90% of the games in the new formats. Comparing it to the final surely you have to compare like for like and compare it to the play off final at the end of the competition which will be a big match as it will decide the overall winners even if they have played each other a number of times during the season.

 

The rules state that there needs to be a 2/3 majority to pass a new rule in the premier league. Earlier this season the smaller clubs outvoted the larger clubs when it came to 5 subs per game.

Then if people remember at the back end of last year there was a potential power grab with "The big picture" idea. This was to give the 9 longest serving Premier League teams the votes, most importantly the Bix Six would hold Six of those votes allowing them to get the 2/3 majority to change the rules.

The rules in question are L9. This details the competitions that Premier League can take part in. The league cup, FA Cup, Charity Shield, Europa League and Champions League are listed as the recognised competitions and even things such as the West Ridings Cup are covered under this rule. A Super League would have to gain permission from the 2/3 of the clubs which now makes it clear what the intentions were back in October when they were trying to push for this adjustment in the promise for a pittance of money to help in the Covid pandemic.

 

What's interesting about Man Utd Vs Barcelona?

It's a premium game.

They rarely play.

Both have to achieve things in order to meet.

You sure replaying that game year in, year out is that interesting?

Isn't that the argument for having a league structure with a top division? That the best sides playing the best sides is really interesting? How many Premier League games are actually interesting and get a big build each season?

Not many.

It's standard fare. We're used to it. It's normal.

Making Man Utd Vs Barca normal is a dumb plan.

 

What makes me angry about this is these clubs are chasing more revenue because of the absolutely obscene amount players are paid now, ridiculous.

 

But is Barcelona - Man Utd more interesting than Man Utd v champions of Malta?

 

I'm amazed to think that one of these 'super clubs' could come bottom of this new league for 10 years running and yet carry on playing in it with billions more pounds than when they started.....!!

 

This is one of the bits that pisses me off particularly, well it all does tbf haha. Parish on sky sports made the point that a lot of champ clubs are poorly run and thats why they were in trouble when challenged on the PLs pandemic help. well the rich six (they aint the biggest or best) are the exact same. they were pissing money out of every orifice even prior to the pandemic, all its done is shine a light on how badly they were run now they don't have any match day income. So why should we all put up with them literally destroying the domestic leagues just to cover up their own financial profligacy. It stinks it really does.

 

You think they'd all just get together and say we aren't paying any more, that would be 10 times easier. but then again there is absolutely no point in expecting any of these clubs to act out of anything other than pure self interest unfortunately

 

It shows just what these faceless owners are all about I can understand letting the news out and the shit hitting the fan before letting everyone concerned at their respective clubs know the situation but for the likes of Klopp to be in an embarrassing position as he was both pre and post match was shocking, the man who brought Liverpool their first Premier title and the other trophy and he knew nothing more than what he's read in ths media.

 

They will trample over everything and everybody to get what they want..

 

The end game for them is an NFL structure competition over Europe.

They start it rolling with established well supported teams and over time add major Cities in Europe as one off clubs to join the "Franchise".

This completely goes against football in europe but it's what they know best to create a closed shop and like in the NFL, when a franchise doesn't perform as expected, they simply ship it off elsewhere in the hope it has more success.