Eoin Doyle

Wuth all this talk of Bowyer possibly being sacked and paying his contract up....
Why does it seem to be onyl in football that you get sacked for underperforming yet they pay you for the privilege.
If I underperform at work and get sacked.... I get nowt.

 

Probably a number of reasons, though your post does warrant merit. To be fair from my point of view we haven’t played that well, only one game against yourself where we put in a decent performance over the ninety. That said we haven’t really played that badly either, i guess our expectations have been heightened due to our decent start. The way we are playing doesn’t help yet neither does our fans fixation with 4-4-2. A couple of decent performances will alieviate the tension but a couple of bad ones could see Bowyers standing drop.

 

Mate you're not new to the game. Not many mangers get to the end of their contract if they don't need take the club in the direction set. The aim is to go up this season and if we don't then he will get scaked. It's football and we will pay him off. Don't be thinking we won't. We are not that broke.
Swindon claimed they were broke and now they're can afford him? Power and Jewell are laughing at the club.

Problem I have is like I say I am not convinced Bowyer would get the money.

 

Because it is a poor league. You lot sit top and you're sh@te. When you came to our place you were dreadful.

The reason you're top is because you know it's an awful league and getting bodies in the box.

If Bowyer is more positive minded I fully believe we will finish is in the top 3 but even though I believe your team isn't great you know that signing Doyle and keeping Yates will more than likely get you a top 3 spot also.

 

Hi new here but have been reading all your Doyle meltdowns with great interest.

I will start by saying I have always thought Bradford were a big club and never imagined them in league 2, but even the mightiest can fall. Just look at Bolton and Blackpool. I believe you will be in the playoffs this year if not next, but you need to sort out the mentality.

There are a few things that have brought me to registering to have a little bit of input. Someone here said by loaning/selling us Doyle you are essentially giving us (Swindon) your (Bradfords) promotion place. I just want to say that if it was your place wouldn't you be up there in it? No place in the league is guaranteed and until you realise your in the basement division for a reason the sooner you will work to get yourself out of it. If your fans feel that then the players probably do to, the superiority complex a small number of you have is probably the same in the players head. If you were good enough for league one wouldn't you be playing there right now this season?

Alot of town fans didn't think this year would be going as well as it is, but then we have had 3 years of mediocracy so to finally be playing fluid passing football and knowing we will score (rather than hoping we will score) is a welcome relief. for two seasons we thought we were too good for league two and we failed each time, this season we seem to have realised that we are probably where we should be at this moment in time, and that with promotion we will go back up to where we feel we should be. Once in league one I expect Wellens to keep building and that consistency will be key to establishing ourselves as a League one club.

And this only relates to Fordy117 as he does seem a bit narrow minded... you played us when we had a pretty big dip in form with some key injuries, we could even see it when playing at home that performances were dire and the lads got boo'd off the pitch. We lost five games pretty much on the bounce but have now regained that early season form and positivity and its showing in the way we play. Its fluid, the passing is crisp and every player moves around with ease.
And you take Doyles goals away... then another of our strikers would probably have bagged them (although probably not as many) as we waste at least 10 clear cut chances most games. Yates whilst scoring a few, misses about 85% of the chances he gets. It's about service and delivery and that is something we at Swindon have bags of. The reason we are top is because we seem to be putting away our chances at the moment, and if Bradford were as good as you seem to think they are then you would be doing the same.
I would argue that a lot of you decent chaps in here are pretty realistic in what you saty, but Fordy seems to be in cuckoo land.

 

Hey, don't worry about us mate, we're on the crest of a slump....

 

That made me laugh way more than it should have haha

 

A Swindon fan saying someone else would have bagged Doyle's goals.

Well I am shocked, because our fans reckon he's the best forward in the league rather than recipient of the best chances !

 

I know right, who would have thought giving a striker chances would mean they could score lol. Although I caveated that maybe not as many.

Don't get me wrong the striker has to finish them, but considering most of his goals have been from the center of the box and the balls been played to him (as he can't play it to himself) then another striker would also convert fairly consistently with the chances we create. Time will tell though, if you guys recall him and we get a replacement and that replacement starts banging them in I would be right. If not and Doyle starts firing them in for you I will happily admit I am wrong.

Although others have said in here "if you take away Doyle goals we wouldn't be top" is like saying "taking away your keeper and you'd have conceded over 100 goals this season and be bottom". It's just a stupid statement.

 

I could not agree more, and some folk on here would have me committed if it had come from me rather than yourself, a Swindon fan.

 

He has scored over 50% of your goals and for a club that claims to have no money seem desperate to keep him when he has 6 months left on his contract and you could sign on a free.

You want him because you're a sh&te team without him answering he can finish. I am not saying he's Messi or anything but he knows how to score and you've a manger that knows how to play him correctly while ours is dinosaur.

 

If someone else would have bagged Doyle's goals then you've got to ask yourself why their fans and manager actually want to keep him. Send him back, stick someone else there and there you go- someone else will bang in 17 goals in 17 games and you save a wage whilst doing it. Piece of piss ain't it?

Anyone who doesn't think the most prolific striker in the land makes a difference to them is in cloud cuckoo land. Fact is, if Doyle's goals were so easily replicable Swindon will have atleast 1 other striker with a similar goal return. It's odd how he's head and shoulders above everyone else even though any old Joe can do it.

 

First of all welcome! What next is Power and Jewell going to come on Bantam Talk to laugh in our faces over Doyle.

We're in a slump because as a club we stand still and make excuses for that while over teams are kicking out and building an infrastructure. I am glad you say we are a big club because we should be acting that way in div 1 & 2 for sure but then the likes off Swindon come along and make us look like complete fools.

Look, I admire how you get attacking players into the box but your team and the league is dreadful. I will be honest I haven't seen Bradford play well for most of the season and I have been to most of the games and we sit 5 points behind with a game in hand. If we get Doyle back I believe you won't go up. You know that or wouldn't be on here acting all desperate. Swindon fans know that! Your team is average without him because he is your main proven finisher. Teams will figure you out soon but with Doyle and Yates you should have enough for an automatic place.

As for us if we are not in the top 3 by the end of the year I will be concemed.

I wouldn't be selling Doyle to you all and I would question the clubs direction even more if we did because you sit top and it because of our player you do!

 

You've this hatred towards Doyle and other players from last season and it's clouding your judgment.

If a div 2 forward that had scored 17 goals with 1 assist before December and he was available you would be wanting us to sign him. Let see keep it real here.

He's our player and the club would be foolish to sell him.

 

The sooner you realise your a league 2 club the better. 90% people in this forum have realised it and are being realistic.

Most of our goals have about 2-3 players in the box, the majority of our players tend to stay out of the box and feed in to the strikers. But even then.... if you don't get players in the box you don't score right?

You seem to think you have a god given right to be in the auto's and that your game in hand is 3 points in the bag. Ands its hardly desperate finding your forum going into meltdown hilarious after a player most slated when he moved, has started banging in goals for a team that create chances.

 

We are about as desperate to keep him as you are to have him back. We want to keep him because he is clearly enjoying his football and has an affinity with the fans, he's banging in goals to boot. And if you have a striker that has scored 17 in 17 why would we want to send him back?

If he has to go back then we will find another to score, maybe not as many, maybe more, no one knows. But where you get this impression we are desperate or can see anywhere where I said I don't think he makes a difference is beyond me.

End of the day your bitter because a player that most people loathed has actually turned out to be good when playing in a decent team. If your team was better, as a few seem to believe wouldn't you have got him scoring and be up at the top of the table?

 

No our manager is negative and yours isn't that's the difference but you desperate to keep him or you wouldn't be on here.

 

I fully understand that currently we are a div 2 club but I don't want that label for year like you lot. We aim to get out of this dreadful league this season at the 1st time of asking.

No, I don't think we have a right for anything but looking at the league and seeing the shi@tr like your team it has to be the aim of the club.

I agree if you don't get players into the box you don't score and this is what we are lacking at the minute or manager is a little negative on that front.

Bottom line is if we took Doyle back you would be crying because he scores most of your goals and you won't go up without him hence why you're on here and will be shouting for the Ginger Pele on Saturday.

 

Didn't Jerry Yates score when Doyle didn't play (against us)?

And why would they want to keep him? Because it's easier than finding someone else with similar finishing ability?

You're asking me about a Swindon fans opinion mate.

Ask him/her.

 

But it’s not down to the fans of either club if he stays or returns.

I’d imagine your owner says something along these lines to Bowyer

‘It’s going to cost the club around £200,000 to have him back - that’s paying his wages and me putting money in to keep us within FFP. Can you either guarantee me you can get him scoring for us or would you prefer that money spent elsewhere on the team?’