Electric Vehicles

Range of the battery 20-40 miles at most Park? When I did my homework that’s the max I could see available anywhere for an hybrid was around that mark. In winter that wouldn’t see me get to the local supermarket and back.

 

The Chinese ( Grrrrr) will be the forerunners!

 

citroen ami ev
8k strictly city use

 

Forward thinking isn't about slamming this govt though. Why didn't Brown, Blair or even Major pick up on this years ago.

 

Because they and previous governments were happy to allow foreign investment to provide our energy and utilities.

 

Technology has advanced at pace since then. So rather than invest, like many other countries, this Gov elected to become reliant on imported fuels, to include gas , electric etc, because it was cheaper than investing. Disbanding gas storage facilities for the last 11 years meant our insurance policy was lost against rising gas prices. Who else can one blame? Perhaps the consumer was at fault for wanting cheap energy costs at the expense of investment? Which ever way we look at it Government made the decision to import from what is our natural political enemy. One couldn’t make it up really?

 

All true, but my point remains in that it is successive governments to blame.

 

Yes , of course, certainly for the last 12 years or so when Gov policy changed to import at the expense of real investment. Which ever way we look at it , the consumer will pay.

 

I agree Park but only for now and especially for distances. The real future is Hydrogen. More and more buses and operators are looking at it instead of EV and HGV will go that way simply because there will be no need to waste tachometer time charging, simply refuel like diesel.

 

Yes Roger that’s the next leap. 15 were made available in the UK in 2021(?) Estimated to take anything between 5-15 years to see them introduced, however infrastructure for nationwide mainstream public fuelling is likely light years away?

 

Not going to fall out Kev but think there are quite a few more than that. London alone for example.

 

Oh no , certainly not, it was the initial release I was referring to , not what has been imported since. I should have added the word “initially” .

There are currently nine filling stations in the whole of the Uk for family cars according to mobility website.

 

20 in West London since last year. There were single deckers from the early 2000s for about ten years.
The testing for the new ones was done on a stretch of the A12 for a couple of years, I used to see them fairly often.

 

Arses are far from carbon neutral, a lot of carbon comes out of them, mainly in the form of methane CH4, that aside, I like your post, an interesting rebuttal of the the EV argument.

 

If your facts were close I could agree but they aren’t.

The cost of used cars has been generated by shortages of new build vehicles, not only for the public, but mainly lease and hire car companies. . Nothing to do with EV cars. I knew that without looking.

Shortages of new cars caused by a world shortage of microchips exacerbated by the ceasing of production during the pandemic . To cap it all Petrol cars have also seen massively reduced manufacturing because a company in the Ukraine makes most of the vehicle wiring looms supplying manufacturers all over Europe . Again nothing to do with EV’s.
All that without any research whatsoever.

Here a quote that took 10 seconds to find


‘But the supply chain issues triggered by Covid and its aftermath mean that there are around two million fewer cars in the market than would have typically been the case – and the problem has been worsened by the crisis in Ukraine.

‘This is a market which is only going to gradually return to normal.’

Upcoming Auto Trader data is expected to be distorted as it overlaps once in a lifetime levels of pent-up demand following the end of the third lockdown, last May.

 

Just had a look at the Citroen Ami. I's basically a big invalid carriage with a range of 43 miles and a top speed of 28mph. Seems a lot to invest for all its restrictions.