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Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Super bantams, Apr 20, 2019.

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  1. Steve1970

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    @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler would it be possible for you to have a quiet word with whoever plays the music and have the team come onto the pitch with EMBARRASSMENT by madness booming out of the tannoys
     
    #21 Steve1970, Apr 20, 2019
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  2. Steve1970

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    I would think most of the players would be saying I'm not going back out to face the supporters knowing that they don't have any passion or pride for this club.
     
    #22 Steve1970, Apr 20, 2019
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  3. Bronco

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    Or maybe this @Steve1970@Steve1970.

     
    #23 Bronco, Apr 20, 2019
  4. Clity

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    Everyone will be fine in a few weeks time when everything has settled in. Its a massive dint in our collective pride but we will bounce back.
     
    #24 Clity, Apr 20, 2019
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  5. Steve1970

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    Too slow Dave but would still part our defence.
     
    #25 Steve1970, Apr 20, 2019
  6. Petrov

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    If we're putting in requests, can we have 'Just go away' by Blondie at the end as well please?
     
    #26 Petrov, Apr 20, 2019
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  7. Bronco

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    As I say something I rarely do and for those who do stay back my respect, but it's not for me (and I'm a happy clapper) so sad it's come to this.
     
    #27 Bronco, Apr 20, 2019
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  8. Clity

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    I would like to say thank you for all the hard graft, keeping us in the loop. I often think a new documentary filmed behind the scenes, showing how the business side works will open eyes of a lot of people. Bring back a few fans.
     
    #28 Clity, Apr 20, 2019
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  9. Bronco

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    Yes they say "times a great healer".
     
    #29 Bronco, Apr 20, 2019
  10. Steve1970

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    Yea but you need to be back in the nursing home for 6 or @Craven Cottager@Craven Cottager will have pinched your tea... :innocent:
     
    #30 Steve1970, Apr 20, 2019
  11. BradfordBanter

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    I'd take a bet with you too Ricc?
     
    #31 BradfordBanter, Apr 20, 2019
  12. Bronco

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    Special dispensation for that game as they don't kick off until 17:30 :D.
     
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  13. BSABantam74

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    Bloody hell yes please ! In fact I'm sure that's not beyond K Block to sing it

    No commitment, you're an embarrassment
    Yes, an embarrassment, to the claret and amber
    If you been bothered we could have been top
    But we bottom coz your never turned up !
    Your embarrassment
    Repeat....!!!
    Easy !
     
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    #33 BSABantam74, Apr 20, 2019
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  14. Ricc

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    I’m happy for a friendly wager. I’ll gladly lose if it means City have done well.
     
    #34 Ricc, Apr 20, 2019
  15. Captain Grumpy

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    I can understand you wanting to play down expectations @wetherbywhaler@wetherbywhaler however didn’t Coventry go down 2 years ago and came straight back, also fairly sure that Doncaster and Blackpool bounced straight back as well. You’ve quoted a few who have struggled but it’s not all gloom, there is recent history of clubs also being in the short stay section as well.
     
    #35 Captain Grumpy, Apr 20, 2019
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  16. Bigrod

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    You paint a fairly bleak picture Roger. A few weeks ago I put a lot of stats about clubs that successfully returned to League 1, a significant number.

    In respect of the clubs you mention above, then some seem to have significant problems. Bury as far as I am aware have a date with HMRC. Oldham have also got significant financial issues. Port Vale are apparently going to cease operating at the end of the season unless a buyer can be found. Notts County again have issues with HMRC. Crewe have had a number of issues with their former coaching staff. So a lot of those clubs are in disarray.

    City have a support of 13,000+. Very impressive given the fall over the last 18 months. No one else will have that in League 2.

    Now for a radical suggestion! Surely the EFL Chairmen could come to some agreement, that standard Footballers contracts include a relegation clause. This could lead to a Players Contract being terminated, or that the rate is reduced ‘pro rata’ to reflect the division that the team finds itself in. It seems as though players can have relegation clauses, and also expect more if their club is promoted. Surely the converse should be a standard EFL Contract. At the moment all the power seems to be in the players hands, there needs to be some reasonable counterbalancing!

    Anyway to balance your bleak assessment, here is a factual record for some clubs who were relegated!
    • 2007 Brentford relegated from League One - 2008 Brentford promoted from League Two and now in the Championship.
    • 2008 Gillingham relegated from League One - 2009 Gillingham promoted from League two.
    • 2008 Bournemouth relegated from League One - 2010 Bournemouth promoted and now in the Premiership.
    • 2010 Wycombe relegated from League One - 2011 Wycombe promoted from League Two.
    • 2011 Swindon relegated from League One - 2012 Swindon promoted from League Two.
    • 2012 Rochdale relegated from League One- 2014 Rochdale promoted from League Two.
    • 2013 City promoted from League Two - Also Gillingham who had been relegated in 2010 return to League One.
    • 2013 Scunthorpe relegated from League One - 2014 Scunthorpe promoted from League Two.
    • 2014 Shrewsbury relegated from League One - 2015 Shrewsbury promoted from League Two.
    • 2016 Doncaster relegated from League One - 2017 Doncaster promoted from League Two.
    • 2016 Blackpool relegated from League One - 2017 Blackpool promoted from League Two.
    • 2017 Coventry relegated from League One - 2018 Coventry promoted from League Two.
    Add into that mix Plymouth and Portsmouth. So lots of clubs have returned and quite a few after one season.
     
    #36 Bigrod, Apr 20, 2019
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    Thanks for the genuine appraisal based upon your own thoughts. Much appreciated.

    Will we be hearing anything shortly from Mr Rupp with regards to his plans regarding Bradford City, the forthcoming season and his expectations moving forward?
     
    #37 bantamdave41, Apr 20, 2019
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    Great Post sir. Did seem a bleak assessment, managing of expectations?
     
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  19. JonButterfield

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    How did those who finished rock bottom of the shit pile by a country mile fare?

    Genuinely curious?
     
    #39 JonButterfield, Apr 20, 2019
  20. wetherbywhaler

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    Not bleak, just pointing to a few comparables. All depends on comings and goings.
     
    #40 wetherbywhaler, Apr 20, 2019
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