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  1. Hoochy-Min

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    The point of protest is to cause disruption and they're certainly doing that. Pretty sure they're not winning the hearts and minds though so they're not doing themselves any favours.

    If they were stopping the traffic and publicising an appropriate alternative that would maybe work better for their cause. At the moment they come across as entitled kids with too much time and not enough responsibility.
     
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    The state of that!

    Bloke (I think), should be made to clean the shop front and then be hung by the nearest tree from his neck as an example to the rest.
     
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    If I'd been in the supermarket and that had been done in front of me I would have had to get involved certainly to try and stop the idiots pouring milk everywhere, I believe if they continue with these stupid acts some where down the line a member of the general public will get involved especially if its stopping people getting to their work.
     
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  4. city gent 65

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    one way to stop these freaks would be to leave them there with no food or water until they are begging to be rescued. i also think its only a matter of time before someone totally loses the plot and drives over the nutters who glue themselves to the roads
     
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    That's one helluva strange response to an Eco Zealot thread.

    Do you think the weirdos who are blocking London streets and vandalising buildings and works of art and pouring milk over fish and meat counters in shops are going about their idiotic protests the right way?
     
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  6. Bantamsteve

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    What on earth is that !!!
    It should be locked in a storage container for 10 nights NO food or water maybe chuck it a few dandelions in a morning then made to clean it before it leaves
    If it doesn't learn it's 20 nights and so on
    As a country we are far too soft on all these groups they must be funded by someone, maybe a certain Mr Gates and his GM meat dreams
    Glue/Chain extinction rebellion protesters to the side of the M62 windy hill on a snowy freezing December evening may give them a different perspective on super glue and tarmac
    Don't serve them in shops or allow on public transport they are easily recognisable, (lights on but nobody home) !!! why they are allowed to disrupt lives without recrimination is unbelievable
     
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    I hope they protest in Bradford. Anywhere around Mannigham and Girlington will do. I'll even offer to help them superglue themselves to the road and then cheer as the evening draws in and the wacky races begin.
     
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    If the UK ceased to exist, or moved to living out of a cave the emissions savings would be offset by China within a few days.

    Developing countries are resistant to green energies whilst they try to catch up with the developed world.

    There was a stat that our emissions here in the UK are now actually lower than they were in the 1800s when we relied on the horse and cart.

    It's OK to say we won't piss in the pool, but if everyone else pisses in the pool it will make no difference.
     
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  9. SimonW

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    They are all clueless idiots who clearly need to educate themselves on a lot of things.
    1. The UK has been right at the forefront of lowering the country's environmental impact since the 80s. We have been at pre-industrial revolution levels of carbon emissions and other pollutants for about a decade now and they have continued to reduce after that.

    2. The UK's consumption of Gas, Coal and Oil is tiny compared to the likes of China and India or even Russia and the US. In fact its small compared to most European Countries. And much of what we do burn is done so in greener ways than many of these countries so even if we did burn as much as China or India it would be less damaging.

    3. Green Energy simply isn't efficient enough. To produce the same level of power that a coal power station produces you would need to fill the whole of the isle of wight with Turbines and that's on a perfect day. A coal power station basically can operate at a consistent level 24/7 but with wind you need the right kind of wind, too little and it doesn't work, the wrong direction it doesn't work and even if its too strong it doesn't work (they have to turn them off to prevent damage). I think we had 29 days in 2021 where no Wind power was generated last year anywhere in the country. And look at France, they are going to require any place with more than 80 parking spaces to put Solar Panels over the top of the spaces. Now a Quick look at Bradford's council website shows me Bradford has 15 Public Car parks and 5 Private ones. And that doesn't include things like Schools/Colleges/Uni (At least 4 of the Educational establishments I attended had more than 80 parking spots), Hospitals or Private Businesses. Just think how many such places to park must exist in the whole of France. And how much power do they think that will produce? Enough to take 21 Nuclear stations offline. Sure that sounds like a lot but France has 56 of them so it's not even half but is taking up way more footprint.

    4. Green Energy is actually expensive to set up. Let's look at the Severn Barrage as an example, initial estimates put that at £30mill. It just under double when initial estimates for a Nuclear Plant costs (This is England so in reality, you can double those amounts for both). And then we get back to the inefficiency. The two largest barrages are in France and in South Korea. The French one is 750m long and the South Korean one 12.7km. Despite being newer and much longer the South Korean one produces 254MW compared to the French one at 240MW so despite decades to improve the technology and a way bigger barrage its only seeing an improvement of 14MW. In comparison, a Nuclear reactor produces over 3000MW.

    5. Green Energy isn't really all that Green. The environmental impact is massive. They kill animals directly (especially large birds with Turbines) while destroying habitats that are important. What good is killing of the flora and fauna in an attempt to save the planet for them and humans

    6. A big part of going green is batteries, we need them for storing electricity produced by green methods and also for storing power for things like cars and other things that otherwise we would need fossil fuels for. Batteries though need Rare Earth Metals and their very name tells you something, they are rare at least in quantities that are useful. There are actually not enough minable quantities of these to produce the batteries needed to meet the commitments the developed nations have made when it comes to Electric cars. Let alone to batteries for other things such as battery stations for storing the power produced by solar panels on residential buildings. Oh and these rare earth metals aren't just needed for batteries, all electronics require them.

    7. Mining rare earth metals is also not environmentally friendly. They are massively toxic and mining them causes issues both for wildlife in the area but also for humans
    So all in all not only are they largely targeting the wrong countries, be it here in the Uk especially but also in many of the other countries where they are doing protests but they are also pushing for something that technologically isn't really viable and if we try and do more here in the UK not only are there diminishing returns but the side effects are worse than the benefit. Until there is a breakthrough on the tech side in various areas, which there is a good chance that the UK will play a big part in these as both on a public and private level we are investing a lot of time and money we aren't in a position to curb our fossil fuel usage or in the current energy crisis not try and exploit untapped reserves of fossil fuels.

    And that's before the hypocrisy most of these idiots show with their travelling around the country, often by fossil fuel-powered transport, using fossil fuel-derived glue & paint, using electronics that are powered by fossil fuels and causing cars to be stuck in traffic jams burning more fossil fuels. And their actions are putting others at risk, we are seeing accidents on roads that aren't really designed for the level of traffic as people look for other routes, we see emergency services getting blocks in traffic or having to take longish detours and we also are seeing some of the emergency services having to be committed to cover the protest meaning they aren't available for other things
     
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  10. Tony Wilkinson

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    All this has nothing to do with snooker, horse racing, animal welfare, stopping oil, eating meat or drinking milk etc, it is just pure anarchism with the intention of changing the culture of the west, we are so weak, no one dares to step in because they would be punished more severely than the perpetrators, it will only get worse because we will allow it, we are all to blame ...
     
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  11. Salty

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    Love the super glue bit though.... synthetic polymer with a petroleum source. Seems like a load of folk who've done Glasto, now onto the next belated adventure
     
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    I know it was windy today but surely a half decent sniper would get them down
     
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    China has many more pollution contribution than the UK. Why do they not go there and try stop pollution?
     
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  14. Tony Wilkinson

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    It's just off the scale of human decency that anyone should have the slightest sympathy for these eco terrorists ..
     
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    #86 Tony Wilkinson, Oct 20, 2022
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    I wish the buggers would go on hunger strike....i'd support them with that ..
     
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    I read a quote somewhere recently that China has used more fossil fuel in the last 7 years than Britain has in the last 220 years. Why don't protesters concentrate on these figures and see how China reacts?
     
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    Good to tell Spring and the warmer weather is here expect more road blocking now it's warming up a little
    Can't be sitting on roads when it's cold !!
    As for last night's disruption cover them both in orange paint and glue/chain them to the nearest lamp post outside the crucible and leave them there make an example of them !!!
    We are the daftest nation going everyone of them arrested should have their gas, electric and water cut off be refused the sale of petrol/diesel soon make them re think their actions
    We all know this is a small part of what's planned but no one does anything about it
    Kudos to the French protestors they may not get anywhere but at least they aren't just laying down and being walked all over
    Wonder if Just Stop Oil have anything planned for the coronation rest assured they won't get away with that !!!!
     
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    Sounds just like the Tory government. LOL.
     
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    Think we all know that it would be US in trouble if we stepped in, but i'd certainly risk it, this cult needs a good hiding and it's coming ..
     
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    As well as there complete disregard for there fellow shoppers if they did not pay for the milk etc could it be classed as shop lifting and be prosecuted for that offence?.
     
    #38 Bronco, Oct 19, 2022
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