Cummings (with Poll)

Would that be the same BBC that gave Nigel Farage a regular platform on Question Time when his party were a 4% in the polls irrelevance? And ended up putting him on there 39 times.
Everyone thinks the BBC is biased against them, left, right or centre.

 

Right wing Tory MP and committed Brexiteer Peter Bone, addressing the liberal/left readership of the Observer/Guardian today. A concise and well argued statement that this is a moral and practical issue, not a political one.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/31/dominic-cummings-should-resign-peter-bone-conservative-mp

 

Ill take your detailed comment as fact, but I'd think as the leader of a political party he has every right to air time ?.

 

So, did they give the leaders of the Communist Party or the SWP similar air time? They were giving him regular slots on Question Time when his party had almost no support and the EU was polling as number 10 in the voting public's list of political priorities. The BBC almost single handedly turned Farage from a nobody into a political star.

 

No I'd suggest what Farage stood for in UKIP and The Brexit Party made him a political star, actually bringing the topic of the EU and leaving to be debated, which eventually made Cameron try and get a better deal from the EU hoping it would pacify his anti EU MPs, the rest is history.

 

Except that he wasn't a political star and UKIP was mostly regarded as a joke party full of cranks, hence it's miniscule showing at the polls and consistent failure to get any elected MPs. Leaving the EU was a fringe issue, outside of a few MPs on the right of the Tory Party, that most of the voting public regarded as nowhere near their main political priorities. It was only when the BBC decided to keep putting the leader of an unpopular fringe party on prime political TV every few weeks in the interests of 'balance' that the popular momentum behind what became known as Brexit began to grow.

 

A fringe issue that had a higher percentage of the populous voting than the general election.

 

Of course the UKIP party would have liked to have had better representation in Parliment but there is no denying for many people the UKIP Party and what they were putting forward was very much in line with what many were unhappy about with regards the EU especially free movement.
So having got the topic of leaving the EU on the then Tory governments agenda and Cameron making a complete fool of himself begging the EU for a better deal, ultimately he had to call a referendum, to deny Farage was not the main motivator behind the referendum is strange.
Once the referendum was won Farage was the man speaking on behalf of the leave voters making sure the likes of May's deal was gone over with a fine toothed comb and explained to the ordinary Joe in the streets who didnt understand the sell out clauses.

So from also ran and getting on QuestionTime to being the voice of brexiteers I'd suggest he ain't do too badly with regards changing the political map and many voters opinions.

 

Which is completely irrelevant to the final vote whether you agree with it or not. Everyone knew the at the start what a majority vote meant and that was the higher percentage of the side that got the most votes of the electorate who bothered to vote in a two horse race wins. I'm not debating the outcome of the vote, I care not one iota, but that's how a two horse race works.

 

One mans fringe is another mans majority.
I remember posting at the time that people I had spoken to friends family etc not one had said they were voting for anything else other than leave and I got a few "you mix with the wrong company sort of replies nothing nasty" many were in denial.

 

The result has gone and past. No poi t in discussing how or why the vote came about. There is a discussion to be had regarding how successful or unsuccessful it has or hasn't been but that wont be known for years. There will be evidence then to show what effect Brexit has had but as we know analytical data can be used and abused to suit your agenda.

 

And on the flip side - majority didn’t vote for the status quo either

 

Yeah, Francis Rossi was really pissed about that.

 

The fact that the " truth " is now emerging re- Cummings makes you wonder just how much of it was actually true . The man who "saw " cummings at Bernard Castle as admitted it was a joke , the fact that after 4 years the Brexit issue is still doing the rounds is because the ruling " political elite " will not accept that the great unwashed did ( at the 1st chance despite previous promises )voted to reject the EU , nobody in this country actually voted to join , the original concept of the EEC was fine until the true nature of this organisation came to light . Labour lost the plot since the referendum , they tried to pamper to the champagne socialists in the London protective bubble , they lost touch with their roots , the local elections should have been a wake up call , but they carried on and lost / decimated in the GE . Cummings was a scapegoat to delay Brexit , in the early days of lookdown the MSM kept asking for an extension , why ?. The fact that the lying prick Piers morgan ( remember Milly dowler and the British murderers in Iraq ) is preaching about honesty and integrity says all you need to know about the talentless scum that pose as " voice of the people journalists " shower of shit the lot of them .

 

Be clear, if there is a 2nd wave of this bloody virus, it won't be because Dominic Cummings drove to Durham ! It’s because you are hanging out at the river, going to the seaside & having your mates round to party !!!

 

Isn’t it the bloke who saw him later that week that made it up? The bloke that saw him at Barnard Castle also broke the rules by travelling to collect his daughter who had been isolating at her boyfriends.

 

By all accounts ( unverified ) he did a 550 mile round trip , its getting silly now , nearly a week in the MSM about something that may / may not have happened .