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Cummings (with Poll)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Bigrod, May 25, 2020.

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Should Cummings be sacked/resign?

  1. Yes

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    65.5%
  2. No

    19 vote(s)
    34.5%
  1. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter
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    And others not part of left wing media might say he is taking on the establishment and amen to that
     
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  2. Bigrod

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    On that basis I am sure you would agree that it is not an illness?
     
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    You clearly have absolutely no idea of DC’s upbringing and the family he’s married into. Fck me, how do people get drawn into and believe this shit?
     
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  4. Park bantam

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    Whatever the reason Cummings is hated by left wingers and their newspapers is because he stuffed them over Europe and he routed them at the election.
     
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  5. Craven Cottager

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    He's also hated by many Tories, if you hadn't noticed
     
  6. Park bantam

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    Aye mainly the grandees he got elected leader by a big majority
     
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    You were referring to Cummings, as was I, not fatboy!
     
  8. Keefly Bantam

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    Cummings didn't "win" the Brexit vote at all. The apathy of the remain vote did that.
     
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  9. brisbanebantams

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    you can't take on the establishment, when you are the establishment.
     
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  10. Bronco

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    Emily Maitlis and Peter Mandelson flirting I didn't realise they were that close, is she a closet Labour babe?.
    Mendhalson.jpg
     
  11. Bigrod

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    Probably a closet Royal. The camera can capture lots of things and people put a rub on them.
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  12. Offcomedun

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    That's only part of the reason. The most important part is that he wants to destroy the neutrality of our judiciary and civil service. These are fundamental tenets of our democracy. But apparently that's ok as long as he gets Brexit done.
     
  13. Offside

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    I agree , but getting the public to understand these unique children can be difficult , 1 of my children suffered very badly from ADHD , getting help back in the late 70s was very difficult ,i was repeatable told my schools and doctors it was just a behaviouralproblem , which he would eventually grow out off . The doctors prescribed Ritalin , which in my honest unmedical opinion made the problems worse , because it surpressed most signs of his behaviour it was deemed a miracle cure all . After a while the dosage was upped because it wasen't as effective . It wasen't recognised except by a few enlightened health officials , you are correct in your point its not an illness , but with the right approach ie struchered days etc can reduce the the triggers . The fact that people seem to think the required care is available at the drop of a hat or even with the neighbours baby sitting are i'm affraid sadly misleading. The tut tutting still resonates when he had a little outburst in public places , but the more we learn about autism perhaps people may in future show a little more sympathy . Having said that whether Mr cummings young child is or is not autistic i dont feel the matter is up to be debaited in public . If it turns out that this was a lie then he deserves all he gets . If on the other hand it's true then perhaps people should show more compassion .
     
  14. Campbell's soup

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    Unless she’s grown a c0ck recently, it’s not looking like it’s a relationship that’ll last.
     
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    My view is that people who both have autism or care for those who have the condition need patience and understanding. That support should be in place, where they live.

    Rather than try to write up my own views, then I will cut and paste a synopsis from a scholarly article. What is my opinion, is that rather than uproot a child, who has the condition the Cummings could/should have sought assistance in their area of residence.

    Sometimes minor changes such as moving between two activities, can be distressing; for others big events like holidays, starting or changing school, moving house or Christmas, which create change and upheaval, can cause anxiety.

    Some autistic people have daily timetables so that they know what is going to happen, when. However, the need for routine and sameness can extend beyond this. You might see:

    • changes to the physical environment (such as the layout of furniture in a room), or the presence of new people or absence of familiar ones, being difficult to manage
    • rigid preferences about things like food (only eating food of a certain colour), clothing (only wearing clothes made from specific fabrics), or everyday objects (only using particular types of soap or brands of toilet paper)
    • a need for routine around daily activities such as meals or bedtime. Routines can become almost ritualistic in nature, having to be followed precisely with attention paid to the tiniest details.....
    That is part of the Guidance from the National Autistic Society.
     
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  16. Bronco

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    She really needs to chose her company better.
     
  17. Bronco

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    I didn't know that @Campbell's soup@Campbell's soup, you learn something new every day.
     
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  18. Hoochy-Min

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    That is excellent advice and these sort of things are becoming much more well known. We don't know enough about this story to speculate. It could be that the son has very regular trips north and it's part of his weekend routine so it wouldn't be upsetting or disruptive for him. Also, life is life with ups and downs and things can't always be meticulously planned for children with autism and sometimes they have to have a rough time.

    I've still not seen any confirmation that the child has autism.
     
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  19. Get Rid Of It

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    By the looks of Emily's eyes Andrew has asked if its ok to babysit her kids.
     
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  20. Keefly Bantam

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.

     
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