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Sad that you feel you can't go but certainly don't blame you. I got pinged after the match Tuesday and have had to go for a PCR test which fortunately came back negative but I'm still gonna isolate and do the home tests I'm more worried about passing it on than I am of having it.

I don't blame those who don't want to wear a mask but there are idiots out there we had someone at work go for a PCR test come into the office without knowing the result and get a positive text while sat there the absolute moron. The bigger concern for me are these idiots because there will be people attending the matches knowing they might have it but are so selfish they can't put others ahead of themselves and miss one or two games.

 

Putting people back into a large crowd scenario means you cannot possibly uphold the covid rules as before, it's simply impossible within the constraints of a stadium like VP. Best thing for any individual is to weigh up the pros and cons. If you feel there might be a risk then don't go, you won't get 12, 13 0000 people following what you think is best way to deal with it. No point in going knowing you'll come away disappointed at what you think is people not taking Coivd seriously. If you feel wearing a mask is appropriate the entire game then do so. If you are uncomfortable in any way then I think as an individual you know not to attend.

 

Whatever decision you make it will be the right one if it gives you peace of mind...

 

I didn't go yesterday so can't talk about the specific behaviour but I think we need to get away from the mindset that people are behaving irresponsibly or throwing it away. People's true colours about the impact of the virus are just being seen now the restrictions are removed. It's a reflection of the process moving towards the next stage when it's risks are accepted and individually managed. If there's a spike then there's a spike.

Big events are simply going to become an individual balance of risks. In theory there were about 240 people at VP yesterday who would have been carrying the virus. If that's too many and too greater risk for the individual then it's going to be a personal decision whether to attend or not. We can no longer rely on other people protecting us, we have to make decisions to protect ourselves.

 

Yes, I appreciate that and everyone will make their own judgement. It's just that I was led to believe that the club would be encouraging people to be careful and there was no evidence of that. There wasn't even any hot water in the kop gents. Anyway, I've made my decision not to attend any games until 18 September when it might be clearer how football attendances are affecting cases. I can't go on the 4th anyhow. I have two nieces who are covid nurses at BRI and their stories of the numerous recent deaths they've witnessed, including many young, healthy double-jabbed patients, really brings the threat home. Having been so careful for so long I would be a fool to throw all that away, but it's up to each of us to assess their individual situation.
I really wish now I hadn't gone today not only for the above reasons but also because the football on offer was pretty dire.

 

As I said, I’ll follow the science Frank. You believe what you want, I’ll believe what I want. But your assertion that masks don’t work is arrant nonsense. Let me make it clear, I don’t believe they are 100% effective, might even be single figures but it improves the odds.

 

Well, after much deliberation and taking on board the good advice of fellow posters, after almost 2 decades as Midland Roaders we have reluctantly decided to relocate to a less populated section of the Main Stand. We'll be up in the gods so I'll need my binoculars but at least we will be back at Valley Parade cheering on the Mighty Bantams. Thanks to Mick at the ticket office for being so helpful. Can't wait for the Walsall match. C'mon City!!

 

Some should wear them when out even without a pandemic

 

As a 48 year old, I do not wear a mask in most scenarios. I wash my hands regularly, I cough into my arm... Is this the right way? .. Possibly not.

Wrongly or rightly, possibly selfishly, I worry little of risk. My thinking is life is littered with risk.

I'm more worried about dementia, cancer, mental health than Covid.

If I read your assertion correctly, I do feel their is more mask wearing in general society than football stadia, which poses its own question.
But I see that extension in other areas of society, pubs as an example. Why is that?

I'm not sure how as humanity we move forward. But I can say it won't be collectively.

 

Really?
Anyone who has followed the long running Covid thread on these pages knows that I've been cautious and critical of those with what I consider to have been too laissez-faire attitudes to the pandemic. But this statement strikes me as hyperbolic.

Yes, there have been some recent Covid deaths amongst young people. But my understanding is that those have been mostly un-jabbed or single jabbed. I also suspect that most of those young people were either significantly overweight or had chronic heath issues.
Yes, there have been deaths of some double jabbed people. But my understanding is that those have been mostly older, vulnerable people.

If there had been many deaths of young, healthy, double-jabbed people, as you assert, it would have been all over the media like a rash.

 

Yesterday I attended.

I got there early, and left about 10min after the final whistle so it has cleared a bit.

Just look after yourself and you'll be ok. There were parts of the ground that were fairly sparce such as A block in midland Road or in the gods of the main stand.

Do what is right for you and in what you consider your risk level.

 

Looking at the scenes up and down the country yesterday, it's clear that the narrative pushed by many on twitter and the media does not represent large sections of society.

If we were to believe the media and twitter then stadiums would be next to empty yesterday.

 

Having thought about this a bit more since yesterday I think I might have been naive in hoping people would behave differently at a football match. The reality is that it will be exactly the same as before the pandemic. Now that I know that I can make my own decision whether to go or not, as can everyone else. The impression given by the club though was that everything would be done to keep people as safe as possible and I don't believe that was the case, the lack of hot water for handwashing being an obvious example. So I'm going to stay away for a few weeks and see how things pan out. More broadly, I'm sure the government's hidden intention is to reach as near as possible to herd immunity, even though that will mean many more people dying. Roughly 30 000 cases and 100 deaths a day seems to be the current cost. There are a number of differing viewpoints in this thread and I respect them all. Ultimately each of us will make an informed decision. I'm just a little more informed now than I was yesterday morning.

 

I feel that is a simplistic appraisal. Saying the youth "can't be bothered" is a lazy statement Imo.

Putting the blame purely on the "youth" is, possibly, unfair... I looked around last night at the ground, and ALL age groups did not wear masks.. I didn't see one person wearing a mask in the upper Kop... Just a senior lady on the way out to Midland Road at the end of the game.

Risk is all around when it comes to humanity. Smoking, alcohol, food, drugs (illegal /legal) technology, pollution et al.

Covid is risk.

I feel its wrong/lazy to apportion blame purely on youth.

 

Having spent 18 months being meticulous about keeping myself safe and avoiding any potentially dangerous situations I allowed myself to ditch my better instincts and attend today. I imagined people might have been aware of the possibility of catching covid but not a bit of it. There was no difference at all from pre-pandemic. The pub was packed, the stadium experience was exactly the same as before. I only hope I haven't contracted the disease today and I have to say I'm in two minds about attending on Tuesday. And this in the part of the country where covid is most prevalent.

 

I had my mask on from leaving my car through the whole game and back to the car
Will be doing the same at every game i attend

 

As somebody who has openly been extremely cautious with regards to Covid, I must admit I felt a real sense of liberty today being able to feel and share normality with my friends and fellow City fans at VP, and my perception and attitude has admittedly shifted somewhat.

Having spent too long worrying about the virus (which I have had and was very ill with for a couple of weeks) I think we just need to learn to live with it in a way that will suit us all to the best possible way.

It's impossible to reach a compromise for everyone to be happy so there has to be some reasonable give and take, however, ultimately it boils down to managing our own level of fear in the most sensible of ways - if that means double or triple masking at the game or sitting in the top corner of the family stand then do what's best for you as an individual. No it's not an ideal situation, and no there's no one-size-fits-all, but as I say there needs to be some reasonable give or take going forward as we learn to live with this virus.

 

Why should everyone live their lives in a way you feel comfortable is the counter arguement.