COVID-19

Strange question. Of course its someone who hasnt taken either. Why would anyone be stupid enough to take the first vaccine and not the second. Its like taking one paracetamol when the box says two.

If someone hasnt taken the second because they havent got around to it they should pick up the phone and book it. If they havent taken it because of some strange belief that the second one will make you ill then there is other medical help they should get.

 

i missed it because its an absolute nothing statement.

FLU doesn't put as many people in the hospital or kill them as COVID does. see attached.


"Therefore the whole basis of a covid passport is a complete waste of time as it's whole safeguard is shot to bits." if one aspect can be chanced on your suggestion is to bin it off?? what a load of nonsense. get rid of taxation, car insurance and police then. what absolute drivel.

 

just to further this I find your naivety absolutely astounding. how on earth have you forgotten the hospitals filling up with covid patients? I have never seen that happen with the flu.

I do not think you grasp what actually would have happened if we had let covid rip. so I will ask you. what do you think would have happened?

 

I have given you evidence from the court case in Australia the video of well done to the parents Dr Michael McDowell video. I also said to add me on WhatsApp telegram or messenger and I will gladly send you further proof.

Have you looked Up James C Smith I guess not.

Have you looked up the increase in deaths in teenagers since the roll out began I guess not

Have you looked up the link myocarditis and heart issues since the roll I guess not.

These are places you can find the evidence you want.

Also I haven't got an agenda and I really hope the vaccine is a success and my thoughts are wrong however until there is proof to its safety I won't be having its that simple.

 

They won't because they have took out multi pound insurances so aren't liable which to me is wrong and clearly are admitting they don't have a scooby of it's safety. I suppose it's a bit like a plumber fitting a bathroom but then a leak develops would you blame the plumber if you say yes then why not Blame the vaccine providers?

Why do you think doctors and nurses won't take liability for the vaccine surely if it's safe they wouldn't have a problem would they?[/QUOTE]
Why do you think doctors and nurses won't take liability for the vaccine surely if it's safe they wouldn't have a problem would they?

I'm pretty sure they don't take liability if a prescribed drug gives you harmful effects. see thalidomide. . pretty sure they don't take liability with any vaccine either. so again spouting non issues

 

nope give me links, you could be a Russian bot for all i know. why is it when anyone spouts any tin pot theory they say "These are places you can find the evidence you want." have you contacted your MP? have you protested? i thought not. whinging purely for the sake of whinging.

Have you looked up the link myocarditis and heart issues since the roll I guess not. I posted a link from the BHF speaking about this... did you actually read it or are just sticking with what you have been told to believe.

 

You clearly read that all wrong didnt you I said describe an anti vaxxer.

I will make it easier is it someone who hasn't had any vaccine of any sort or someone who hasn't had the Covid vaccine

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-side-effect-myocarditis-b1936880.html

before you say iTs tHE IndEPeNDanT PaRT of THe MSM.

literally took two minutes that. i wonder how easier life would be if everyone did the same. rather that listening to covid idiots on twitter and facebook.

 

you can take both and be anti vaxxer you know? its not a physical thing its a state of mind...

 

Protested yes contacted my MP yes so your point is?

 

did you give them any evidence? or did you did you give them a load of fake news? like actual links and papers.

just in I know for a fact that Bradford city is run by a lizard man.

 

also did you read that article? that said the findings were incorrect and thus the paper was pulled?

They had initially based their estimate on a total of 32,379 vaccines doses and 32 cases of myocarditis, when in reality more than 854,000 doses had been given between June 1 to July 31.

The study’s findings have been used by anti-vaccination websites and social media accounts in Britain, the United States and Canada.

The study was a pre-print, meaning it had yet to be peer reviewed by independent experts and accepted for publication in a reputable science journal. During the pandemic the need for scientific answers over the Covid-19 crisis and vaccine effectiveness has meant pre-print studies have been highlighted much earlier than normal.

lol classic anti vaxxer own goal again.

deaths have gone down, hospitalisations have gone down and we have the most freedoms ever since march 2020.

what's that, there's 50m vaccines used in the general population? nah it cant be that, they put jello in vaccines trust me i saw some quack on twitter whinge on about it. its not like he wants to popular and relevant no matter the cost...

me? i put it down to the covid fairy saw her yesterday morning when i took the bins out, she also delivered my post!! lucky guy.

 

Firstly Flu doesn't kill as many people as Covid especially in that period shown in your graph because you are comparing a high risk population who would have had a flu vaccine and still seen 4k deaths per month as per those figures during January against a virus that wasn't even identified nor had a vaccine when it hit. The reason Flu deaths are lower is because a vaccine keeps them lower but they are still in the tens of thousands each year, and every winter the NHS has historically struggled due to flu outbreaks. We don't however have to control these outbreaks by vaccinating those who aren't high risk, so why is Covid any different?

"Therefore the whole basis of a covid passport is a complete waste of time as it's whole safeguard is shot to bits."

I see you are ignoring the main part of what I said to make the Covid passport a complete waste of time. I was refering as you well know to Self Certification LFT that mean any covid passport is pretty much rendered useless due to such a huge gap in it's defence. Anyone can register a LFT as negative to get a text from NHS. It's like locking your front door but leaving your back door wide open then wondering why your TV is missing.

 

You never see hospitals filling up with Flu patients. Really, the NHS is under stress every winter. Even with the high risk people vaccinated year on year there are tens of thousands of flu deaths, if they didn't get vaccinated we would see Covid level deaths in this high risk group.

"What do you think would have happened?" Whats' that got to do with a question about bringing in a Covid Passport to an already highly vaccinated population? In your eyes is pointing out the obvious flaws in a covid passport equal to letting the virus rip? It's nothing of the sort.

 

So the flu vaccine is experimental? TB, Rubella, mumps?

• coronavirus (COVID-19)
• diphtheria
• haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
• human papillomavirus
• influenza, except for influenza caused by a pandemic influenza virus
• measles
• meningococcal group B (meningitis B)
• meningococcal group C (meningitis C)
• meningococcal group W (meningitis W)
• mumps
• pandemic influenza A (H1N1) 2009 (swine flu) - up to 31 August 2010
• pertussis (whooping cough)
• pneumococcal infection
• poliomyelitis
• rotavirus
• rubella (German measles)
• smallpox - up to 1 August 1971
• tetanus
• tuberculosis (TB)

 

Firstly Flu doesn't kill as many people as Covid especially in that period shown in your graph because you are comparing a high risk population who would have had a flu vaccine and still seen 4k deaths per month as per those figures during January against a virus that wasn't even identified nor had a vaccine when it hit. The reason Flu deaths are lower is because a vaccine keeps them lower but they are still in the tens of thousands each year, and every winter the NHS has historically struggled due to flu outbreaks. We don't however have to control these outbreaks by vaccinating those who aren't high risk, so why is Covid any different?

covid has a have a HIGHER fatality rate and a HIGHER transmission rate why are you so silly? i don't understand how you cannot grasp these figures. by that logic you would expect flu to be WORSE than covid? if no one was vaccinated?? can you not grasp that covid is worse than the flu so stronger measures are needed? this is why i ask again my question at the bottom also what's with your comparisons for flu for? we don't compare smallpox and covid? why are the two compared? they aren't even related viruses?
What do you think would have happened?" Whats' that got to do with a question about bringing in a Covid Passport to an already highly vaccinated population? In your eyes is pointing out the obvious flaws in a covid passport equal to letting the virus rip? It's nothing of the sort.
not on about vaccine passports, I am asking you plainly what do you think would happen if (before vaccines) we let it rip? respectfully you sound like someone who thinks that covid is like a flu+ or something. trust me there are people who have spent their lives researching illnesses and they know that this is bad. like a one in a century illness. thats why i am asking as i want to see your grasp on the situation.

to be polite, do you need visual aids? i said "if one aspect can be chanced on your suggestion is to bin it off?? what a load of nonsense. get rid of taxation, car insurance and police then. what absolute drivel." there is no part of sociality that is 100% unavoidable i don't understand how you missed this but I said it clear as day. so according to you are laws still relevant knowing that people get away with committing crimes? ALSO i think you forget to realise, if you KNOWNLY fake a test you are LIABLE to be fined or sent to prison. you realise people are expected to exist with honesty and good intentions. what a strawman argument.

 

This morning my business has had a HSE Covid19 spot-check. we have had a couple in the past but I'm quite surprised they are still doing them bearing in mind most restrictions have been relaxed

 

Why am I comparing it to flu. Well it was pretty clear. I was asking why for one virus we only need to vaccinate those at high risk, and for another virus we need everyone to be vaccinated.

Have vaccines changed in the last 18 months, does my vaccine not work if everyone I am around has had to same vaccine. If that is the case then why are vaccines not mandatory?

Throwing up figures to compare Flu against Covid as a like for like comparision to claim Flu has less deaths when annual vaccinations are rolled out doesn't prove anything and the point still stands, why does the Covid Vaccine require everyone to take it, but the flu vaccine requires only those at risk to take it? A vaccination is to protect you, otherwise we would give everyone the flu vaccine and chip down at these tens of thousands of flu deaths we see year on year.

The government is currently rolling out a massive flu vaccination programme because it sees a disaster on the horizion, but why bother, you've never seen hospitals full of flu patients (even though it happens ever year).

You still haven't come up with anything to suggest why Covid Passports should be implemented rather than it's better than nothing. Well not hugging family members is a restriction that would reduce transmission, it's better than nothing.

"i think you forget to realise, if you KNOWNLY fake a test you are LIABLE to be fined or sent to prison" How does that work? A test is thrown away seconds after it is used (or not) How could this ever be proven. Do you think the person you are happy to ban going to a football game and be made a second class citizen gives a shit about registering a test as negative? The exploit is so massive and can't be proven it completely negates the entire passport.

If you don't pay your taxes, drive without insurance you can be easily proven to have committed a crime, if you register a test as negative, you aren't going to have the flying squad smashing through your door taking the used test out of the bin for evidence.

Btw I have not once downplayed the serious of Covid. I HAVE TAKEN THE fecking VACCINE, TAKING THE VACCINE AND NOT AGREEING WITH A SCHEME WITH MASSIVE FLAWS IS NOT A MEMBERSHIP CARD TO THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY.

If anything just accepting restrictions and not asking questions when a damming report has been issued by a cross party committee and just accepting the government at face value rather idiotic. Would you stand on your head if the government asked you too because less Covid is found at ground level so it reduces your risk, or would you quite rightly want to scrutinise such a policy?

 

Money for old rope. Strike whilst the iron is hot.

 

Do any of these vaccines require everyone to have it to work, except it seems the Covid vaccine?