COVID-19

I got vaccinated to protect myself not others. The notion getting vaccinated helps others is utter nonsense as I can still get and spread Covid.

For me it was risk v reward when deciding to get vaccinated.

Do I want a slow death in hospital without my family by my side or do I get vaccinated and find out in 2023 that there are some side effects that aren't life threatening and are treatable.

No brainer for me. I do understand why others want to wait for absolute proof the vaccine has no side effects but to me that's a far more risky strategy. You will die one day but I want to have a chance of being here as long as I can. Yes I know I could get knocked down by a bus tomorrow but getting vaccinated was something I could have some control over.

Am I bothered if I have to show some proof I am double jabbed -hell no-it's of no inconvenience to me at all-no different than showing your ticket to the train guard to prove you are travelling legally.

 

I haven't took the vaccine where do I say I have?

As I said to you I have plenty of information videos etc. Michael McDowell video is on YouTube and Facebook unless of course they have recently took things down like they said they would. If you want me to send you evidence I will add me on messenger WhatsApp or telegram and I will gladly send you countless of info.

Do you know about the court cases going on down under for instance, I guess not and that's the thing people have no idea. I suggest people do some research and stop believing the media and they will be shocked to what they will find.

Interesting that everytime the government say an age bracket should now get vaccinated its that group that are the biggest carries at the time. Coincidence I think not.

 

Why the insults or is it your default mode
Did you sleep through the blood clot deaths
Please feel free to put this "loon" on ignore as requested earlier

 

Is it still EXPERIMENTAL as you keep saying. I thought it had officially passed that stage now

 

If and when the pharmaceutical companies withdraw their indemnities against the vaccine I will stop thinking of it as experimental

 

Did you sleep through the blood clot deaths
Please feel free to put this "loon" on ignore as requested earlier[/QUOTE]
I tell you what mate, lets see who's right a few years down the line, mind the drug companies wont be to fussed they will have made the wonga with a get out clause against damages.

 

I tell you what mate, lets see who's right a few years down the line, mind the drug companies wont be to fussed they will have made the wonga with a get out clause against damages.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully no one will suffer down the line from taking the jab but unknown at the minute

 

Hopefully no one will suffer down the line from taking the jab but unknown at the minute[/QUOTE]
Indeed Steve

 

With that sentence you have pretty much rendered Covid passports pointless.

 

you forget those are mainly from AZ vaccine.. not the 'experimental' one

"Blood clots after the vaccine are rare. These 416 cases of blood clots are after an estimated 24.8 million first doses, and 24.1 million second doses of the vaccine. Of the 416 people who developed blood clots, 72 died."

are you saying that 72 deaths are worse than 100,000 excess deaths? pretty sure more people die in car accidents per week month but I don't see you campaigning for slower speed limits...

my sources as i don't believe everything I'm told.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-weekly-reports

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYmUwNmFhMjYtNGZhYS00NDk2LWFlMTAtOTg0OGNhNmFiNGM0IiwidCI6ImVlNGUxNDk5LTRhMzUtNGIyZS1hZDQ3LTVmM2NmOWRlODY2NiIsImMiOjh9

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/astrazeneca-covid-vaccine

https://www.brake.org.uk/get-involved/take-action/mybrake/knowledge-centre/uk-road-safety

 

reduced risk of catching/spreading it

and for shame @Edin Nowhere i have already repeatedly told you this.

 

you do realise they want repeat custom right? people do remember and don't blindly buy from the same company again....

 

I tell you what mate, lets see who's right a few years down the line, mind the drug companies wont be to fussed they will have made the wonga with a get out clause against damages.[/QUOTE]
i bet you a tenner nothing comes about from this.

 

I notice you have completely ignored what I asked you about the Flu Vaccine, and why it is not required for everyone to be vaccinated for that to work even though it can equate to 50k deaths a year but the Covid one is?

Here you go if you missed it.

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A negative LFT is a waste of time. In order to get a negative LFT you simply self certify yourself as negative by scanning the barcode. Therefore the whole basis of a covid passport is a complete waste of time as it's whole safeguard is shot to bits.

Would you support lowering the speed limit from 70 to 69? Because this is the net gain if any from a covid passport.

As you clearly are chomping at the bit to call me part of the flat earth society I will state this.

I am pro Vaccine.
I am however Anti Vaccine Passport.

The reason is simple, I see the benefit of having the vaccine as being tangible. I see no benefit of a vaccine passport that is tangible.

I will go back to the flu vaccine. Flu kills 50k people in a bad year. Not everyone is vaccinated for flu, only those deemed to be at high risk, they don't require those of low risk to be vaccinated even though transmission of flu like Covid is viral. So why do we need a passport for people to be vaccinated for covid, but we only need to go as far as vaccinated the high risk for flu but still have no issue with them mixing with those without the flu vaccine?"

 

Wrong I suggest you listen to the court case in Australia where the professors admit on oath it is still classed as a experimental vaccine and as I said previously the earliest will be 2023 before it can be classed as safe.

Are you suggesting professors of medicine are lying in court?

Also do you who James C Smith is I bet not well he is part of fact checkers but not only that but part of the Pfizer vaccine program conflict of interest wouldn't you say.

And let's not forget fact checkers themselves have been caught out misleading the public and lie.

 

i bet you a tenner nothing comes about from this.[/QUOTE]


They won't because they have took out multi pound insurances so aren't liable which to me is wrong and clearly are admitting they don't have a scooby of it's safety. I suppose it's a bit like a plumber fitting a bathroom but then a leak develops would you blame the plumber if you say yes then why not Blame the vaccine providers?

Why do you think doctors and nurses won't take liability for the vaccine surely if it's safe they wouldn't have a problem would they?

 

Define a anti vaxxer?

Is that someone who hasn't taken any vaccine or is that some one who hasn't taken just ONE VACCINE.

 

that's wrong, I have just given you evidence to prove the contrary. you clearly have an agenda here. just think for a minute logically. if 50 million people have taken a vaccine and it is dangerous (like the first polio vaccine was) you are genuinely looking at the end of society as we know it. if it had a 1% fatality rate or even required hospital treatment thats 500,000 people; the population of Bradford gone.

I think its really disingenuous of you to assume that these people who have spent their lives in their fields studying learning and improving to make some cack vaccines. lunacy.

if your mechanic said your oil filter is broken you trust him, why?

but then a global pandemic with at least 3m dead nope its all a scheme its all lies. are you unable to grasp the reality of the situation?

instead of just saying things in a miasma of nothing actually provide sources please.

 

They won't because they have took out multi pound insurances so aren't liable which to me is wrong and clearly are admitting they don't have a scooby of it's safety. I suppose it's a bit like a plumber fitting a bathroom but then a leak develops would you blame the plumber if you say yes then why not Blame the vaccine providers?

Why do you think doctors and nurses won't take liability for the vaccine surely if it's safe they wouldn't have a problem would they?[/QUOTE]
disingenuous to assume people would realise something that is worse than the cure. that makes no sense.

 

Strange question. Of course its someone who hasnt taken either. Why would anyone be stupid enough to take the first vaccine and not the second. Its like taking one paracetamol when the box says two.

If someone hasnt taken the second because they havent got around to it they should pick up the phone and book it. If they havent taken it because of some strange belief that the second one will make you ill then there is other medical help they should get.