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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by king karl, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Ricky

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    Micheal McDowell the truth about Covid is on YouTube there is your link seen has you couldn't be arsed to look.
     
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  2. XCIV_Bantam

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    Me with 100% certainty.

    how long do you want to wait? What ever you say i will put a tenner on it.

    you didn’t answer my question about how long a vaccine actually stays in the human system.

    also really interesting you expect others to tell you how safe a vaccine is when you can just look it up yourself :unsure:
    Oh wait its a scheme by mainstream media to kill off the population the great reset! Right? If that was the case they have already won.

    its not up to me to prove you correct, it is up to yourself. So provide links. If not i will just knock you back as brainwashed covid idiot.
     
  3. Offcomedun

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    Do you actually know what a link is? If so, why won't you provide links to the evidence you claim to present instead of expecting others to go searching for it?
     
  4. Edin Nowhere

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    I've had a look at the current rates in Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley and Leicester as they are places which have all been in harsher restrictions and made the news for higher cases in the last year and like Bradford, the areas which have the lowest Vaccine take up currently have the lowest number of cases, when historically these places have been far as away the places with the highest cases.

    It really does seem to be quite a strange phenomenon that appears to be playing out at present.
     
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  5. Ricky

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    It's not hard to find something on Google is it type in what you want and hey presto away you go.
     
  6. Ricky

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    Funny you say that with me on living near Burnley the cases here and surrounding areas are quiet low yet the vaccine intake is below average too.

    I have also been looking up Ireland as they seen to have a high number of cases lately and what do you know in Waterford on the 23rd September the intake of the vaccine in adults was 99.7% according to the Irish examiner yet by the 11th October they had the highest amount of cases. Surely they should have one of the lowest.
     
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    I have already said I believe Covid exist you Muppet I am just not convinced about the vaccine safety nor do I agree with passports and I am very concerned about what's going on around the world regarding people's freedom's. Remember there is nothing in life that is mandatory everything is a personal choice.

    Going back to your other comments I have provided you with names and told you where to find the videos to watch what you do with that info is upto you and if you don't like what I post then just skip past it's not hard.
     
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  8. XCIV_Bantam

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    so why are you bothered about a vaccine that has killed 75 people but not bothered by a incredibly bad virus that has killed the population of preston... that is what boggles my mind. the 'cure' is no way worse than the actual illness for some. but for some reason you sound like it was made in the back of walter whites RV.

    just boggles my mind. TB jab fine, polio jab fine. but when a deadly virus comes about you are skeptical.. why? do you think the lockdowns were unneeded or something? i just don't understand it...
     
  9. Storck

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    remember though that the vaccine is EXPERIMENTAL as the manufacturers don’t have any liability, just like loads of other vaccines
     
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  10. XCIV_Bantam

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    to be honest, I just think some people cannot physically grasp the situation that we are in. rather than accept its a global pandemic so a vaccine and other measures were needed to counter it; people just whinge about how 'experimental' it is...


    do people not understand these people had loads of money to research a vaccine because of how PRESSING it is. any day longer were lives lost! do they think it was rushed; and the people making them had no experience or something? stick any crap in the arm and hope it works? its GLOBAL PANDEMIC!!! i think its really neive to think ESPECIIALY IN PHARMA for them to put out a product that would harm everyone... why would governments try to wipe out populations?? I just find peoples attitudes so confusing!
     
  11. XCIV_Bantam

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    after missing my question, the vaccine liquid stays in the body for a few days, and the mRNA spikes last for a few weeks. so the likely hood of it having problems is like 0.001% also seeing as you are not taking the vaccine why wont you take up my bet? £10 no problems past 2023.
     
  12. Edin Nowhere

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    Bolton May 2021

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    Bolton Today

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    Vaccine Rates as of Today

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    Is there not a strong case appearing here that those who previously have had the virus and have recovered have a very high degree of immunity? This is happening in many areas where cases have historically been high. Doesn't this also fly into the face of a vaccine passport? Why are we seeing this if the vaccine substantially reduces transmission @XCIV_Bantam@XCIV_Bantam ?
     
  13. Edin Nowhere

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    Here is West Yorkshire in a snapshot, current cases v current vaccination rate.

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    Unsurprisingly the powers that be fail miserably yet again - couldn’t run a fuking bath!!! When will this shit show end?
     
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    A similar pattern is emerging in Manchester.

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  16. XCIV_Bantam

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    No on all those points.

    you realise the R rate without vaccinations is 5 right? Every week cases would be increasing five fold. So it is substantially reducing transmission near to one.
    You seem to lack any knowledge in how epidemiology works. I do not understand how you cannot grip basic concepts. You keep repeating the same points over and over again even though i keep providing evidence to prove the contrary.

    “Vaccines dont work” they do, the problem is you cannot comprehend what you are showing me proves me correct.

    please actually read this from top to bottom to gain more understanding.

    https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28/7/taab124/6346388
     
  17. Edin Nowhere

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    Can you offer any reasoning to real world data that currently shows transmission is higher in areas where vaccine take up is higher, and a lower number of cases in areas where vaccination is lower? This isn't my data this is free to access data in the public realm which is showing the exact opposite to what should in theory be happening, those case maps should really mirror the vaccine, so less cases in vaccinated areas and more in unvaccinate areas don't you agree?
     
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  18. XCIV_Bantam

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    again lack of grasping common concepts. you realise all these areas had high infection rates at the start of the pandemic right? therefore it would be smart to suggest they already have immunity. but remember correlation does not mean causation.
     
  19. XCIV_Bantam

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    and suggesting the vaccine is giving people covid is downright silly, if not stupid.
     
  20. Edin Nowhere

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    I suggested this might be down to acquired immunity and you just dismissed it. "Is there not a strong case appearing here that those who previously have had the virus and have recovered have a very high degree of immunity?", Your respone was "No to all those points."

    So you are now contradicting yourself.

    I'm not suggesting the vaccine is giving people Covid, where have you got that from? I was asking why if the vaccine reduces transmission are the areas with the highest vaccination rates those with the current highest case rates. That's not to suggest the vaccine gives people covid, it's asking why if the vaccine reduces the transmission is this not been seen on the maps linked.
     
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