Coaching staff

Not necessarily I can see your point, but imo we’ve already got the numbers if you replace Drury for a Bowyer picked assistant nobody would be batting an eyelid. So it would require paying Drury off as well, as you can’t have someone well paid sat there twiddling their thumbs. Before you say he can do youth teams or whatever, his wage maybe too high for that sort of role, remember Rahic employed him god knows what he’s on. Regarding the players they’re all young lads and probably cheap, we need a squad of between 22-25 players they can’t all be too the standard I mentioned in my last post, we’ll need squad fillers. It’s a long old season.

Just too finish off so I don’t start going in circles, I have no doubt if Drury left tomorrow Bowyer would bring his own assistant in.

 

As I posted I very much doubt Bowyer would have been happy with the situation if he didn't think Drury could offer something to the club as part of his backroom staff.
I don't get this assistant/coach comments some are using, Parkinson had Parkin I'm sure he bounced stuff of of him but at the end of the day Parkinson made the calls, just as I believe McCall did with Black, Bowyer will dictate what system he wants to play and Drury will assist, Bowyer has brought several players in during this transfer window I'm sure there will be more to come but it will be Bowyer who dictates what formation we play he will have brought players into the club who can play his way.
We can read what we want into the T&A comments IMO Bowyer has spent money on players rather than enhanced his backroom team, which I believe is the correct way forward.

 

See I don't know if he is.

I fully believe Drury is being fast tracked by Rhodes like Collins was by Edin.

I see nothing to suggest Bowyer wants Drury.

I fully agree with @BoingBoing on this.

 

Well you would, wouldn't you? If there's a conspiracy theory or negative spin to be put, we can be certain you'll jump on it.

 

You know I respect you and your views Dave, but I can’t agree with you on this. Both Parkin and Black had been successful assistants or managers prior to joining City. Drury was fast-tracked into the role by Mr ‘I know football’ and there is no evidence that he will be competent in the role.

Let’s face it, our set-pieces were awful last season under a plethora of managers. We looked disorganised in defence and our midfield often went missing. This happened all season.

The only consistent part of last season was the coach and that was Drury. So why do we give him a pardon? You say Bowyer won’t be happy if he didn’t accept the position. Simple question is, how do you know he is happy? Read the comments he came out with when Todd left. Read between the lines in the recent T&A article. He’s far from happy, even if he knows he has to suck it up and get on with it

 

We could sign a squad of the quality of Devine et al, and “have the numbers”, but having numbers and quality isn’t the same.

This goes for the backroom too. Having Drury may meet the quota of staff, but it doesn’t mean he’s up to the job.

As I’ve said, he was the coach last season and our organisation and set-pieces were awful. We don’t attribute any blame on the coach for that?

 

And vice versa, we can expect you to jump to their defence. Works both ways.

Take the rose tints off for a while so you can see the picture better

 

Well I disagree with both you and BoingBoing, Gary Bowyer is in a position to tell Julian he is not happy with the situation, a mountain out of a mole hill IMO.

 

Bowyer will understand if there are any constraints for this season, lets face he's worked with far worse.

 

Nope. I try to be balanced and not jump to conclusions on minimal evidence. Unlike Fordy, I wasn't predicting dire consequences every season when we were actually getting year on year improvement for several years under PP & SM. Hence my conspiracy/negative spin comment.

I'm not saying I agree with the decision to not replace Todd and McElhon. I agree that it is disappointing and possibly short sighted.
I'm simply saying that no one can single out Drury as being not up to the job of coach (not assistant manager) without knowing far more than any of us know about his coaching methods and what instructions he was working under last season. I'm not saying he's good either - I simply don't know and I suggest that you don't either.

 

Really?

Not sure he is.

A mountain out of a mole hill? You're well older than me and I think you should know the importance of having a good assistant and bringing your own team into a football as a manager.

If you fail to understand that then let's take a look back at last season.

Our Defence was a shambles
Our midfield was a shambles
Our attack was a shambles

Drury was the coach last season and like @BoingBoing has said he failed to set us up correctly. Didn't you watch us last season? Set play both attacking and defending was awful.

If you still don't understand then let again talk about last season Drury was given one game to manage and prove his worth and we were all over the place and took a beating.

Struggling still? Drury didn't improve on one player last season. Not one. Players like Payne were going backwards.

Still struggling to understand? Last season was a massive negative and Drury failed to pick the players up and perform. Unless we get in 23 new players he is a reminder of the shambles of last season to both fans and players.

It's early and maybe you're still struggling? Drury has 2 years left on his correct it was Rhodes for whatever reason made him manager for that shambles or one game and it seemed to me by Drury interview at the time that if Drury wanted the job until the end of the season he would of got it. Rhodes rates him and Bowyer seems to be playing ball but it doesn't mean he rates him.

Still struggling? Well I can't fecking help you!

 

I'd suggest Bowyer is in a very strong positon to tell Julian he is far from happy with having Drury forced upon him IMO.
If the players still at the club come the start of the season are 100% behind Bowyer, Drurys and Bowyers jobs will be so much easier than last season, hopefully those wanting out will get their wise and be transferred and Bowyer can start to build a team along with Drury to challenge for a play off place at least.

 

He walked at Bkackpool when he had just got the club a very good league position in his first season back in league one because he could not get assurances from the owner, thats what sort of manager Bowyer is, IMO a manager of principle.

 

Really?

Think principle is the wrong saying.

He can walk from a no lose situation. It's easy to walk from Blackpool when the fans hate the owners at the time.. easy!

 

We have players coming to the club because of the reputation and the working relationship they have had with the manager in the past. I like Bowyers style, makes players feel wanted.

 

@Fordy117 in a post above you said Drury was the coach last season.

I only remember him being the coach for 1 game, when to be fair we were awful.

 

We've players coming because we're a big club in the lower leagues with a nice stadium.

Plus the aim is pomotion which isn't hard to see.

Bowyer is a good manager but has to prove himself at Bradford City and he will know that. I don't care about bloody Blackpool.

 

Sacking Drury will probably cost around £50k in compensation, A lot of money but in my opinion well worth it to get the final part of the cancer Rahic imposed on the club, The thought of a non league player coaching professional players and trying to improve them is a joke, Dury telling Donaldson how to play will have him breaking down in fits of laughter

 

I have full confidence Gary has control of the budget, if he’s decided on an extra player or two rather than his own assistant that’s good enough for me.

 

Thanks for stating the obvious Fordy.