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Club Crest (New Crest Revealed 5 October 2022) With Poll

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dratsab taf, Sep 16, 2022.

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Do you like the new Bantam logo

  1. yes

    29 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. no

    96 vote(s)
    60.4%
  3. what's a Bantam ?

    5 vote(s)
    3.1%
  4. Prefer current one

    29 vote(s)
    18.2%
  1. TallinnBantam

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    Should never be a white bantam though.
     
  2. TallinnBantam

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    At the old woman/young woman, blue dress/green dress scenario.
     
  3. Tennesseebantam

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    All that being said, I think Simon makes some interesting points about the design process. One thing is for sure, there’s always going to be varying degrees of disagreement.
     
  4. Tennesseebantam

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    I’m colour blind, that one does my head in.
     
  5. SimonW

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    The big problem is basically your club colours are 4 colours, you lose the bantam in the stripes if use the main two colours. You would have to either increase or decrease the hue on the main two colours for the bantam for it to work without being black or white

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  6. SelbyFan

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    There isn't a good one there.

    They all look like a wide mouthed Eagle with a rain drop in its mouth.

    The monochrome "Bantam" doesn't work.

    Just my opinion like.
     
  7. SimonW

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    I haven't redesigned the Bantam itself from the one for the 1903 club. It does need a better bantam
     
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    The legacy of this is terrible Rupp needs to get a grip and rein em in
     
  9. borderlescott

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    If it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.
     
  10. Ulysses S Grant

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    As Paul Weller said " what chance have you got against a tie and a crest"
     
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  11. Dratsab taf

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    At the end of the day, we are currently a league 2 club why do we need to rebrand? Why do we need to have instantly recognisable crest?

    Most people in the country will know who we are from the colours anyway. We aren't also going to have a sudden influx of supporters buying merchandise that we produce simply because we have a new crest. The same people who buy kits now will buy it then.

    To much I think this could cause a rift between club and fans that simply doesn't need to happen and that the club would see very little benefit from, not to mention the cost of having to change the logos that currently everywhere aside from kits etc
     
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    The thing is if you rebrand when you need to rebrand then it's already too late. These things don't take a day to sort, after all, just look at Kits because of the supply chain issues that caught so many clubs out pretty much every club in the country, even the top ones who will get priority from their manufacturer have already signed next season's kits off. That means if you changed the logo today you wouldn't have it on the kits until the 24/25 season.

    And there has been an increase in interest in the lower leagues, with Salford being owned by the Class of 92 which automatically drew more eyes plus the associated Documentary which has been sold globally and now Wrexham being bought by Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney and now the Documentary about that not to mention Hashtag United that's gone from being Spencer Owens way of turning a kick around with mates into a fun Youtube Series to now being a proper team whose Senior Men's team are just 3 promotions away from the EFL then there is simply more eyes on the lower Leagues than ever especially from abroad. And while those teams are going to be a more natural draw to those who get into lower league football there are people who those clubs may be their gateway but who maybe don't want to jump on the bandwagon.
     
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  13. borderlescott

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    I must be missing the point here. On what basis is the club’s crest holding us back now or would it in future?

    if we have success on the pitch fans want to come. Businesses want to invest for exposure when a team is successful. And that’s about as much as there is to it.

    this is football, a much different business to normal as you have a loyal fanbase who return even if the product is bad, within reason, because it is ‘their’ team.

    This isn’t Morrisons rebranding their logo to look more modern or Asda redesigning the packaging on their microwave meals to convince their customers - who are prime targets for other supermarkets - to stay shopping with them.

    i’ve never heard of a fan not supporting a club because their badge was the wrong shape.

    like a lot of things in the working world, it is one of those things where people look to give themselves something to do to justify their existence.

    Someone will end up milking lots of time and money to dedicate to this!
     
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  14. Dratsab taf

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    The increase of interest in the lower leagues, specifically the teams you have mentioned, have had little to do with rebranding.

    Salford were bought into by the United boys for obvious reason, Hollywood getting involved with wrexham was likely due to them being a cheap option. Relatively well known, decent fanbase, chance to climb the ladder. Given at what Reynolds and mcheleny were looking at, I'd be amazed if our club didn't pop up in a conversation however I'd guess the £10m price tag put paid to that.

    There is no pressing need for a rebrand, the club have just begun to get fans back inside after a terrible few years, risking that now for the sake of it would be ridiculous. The backlash would be , in my opinion, worse than they'd expect.

    The white kit experiment of last year, was I think a little test the water thing, ok it might have a sold a few shirts however most fans thoughts were against it.

    Ask Cardiff fans how they feel about rebranding, they had a wonderful year in red with a new badge didn't they?

    Many other teams have tried to break from tradition, it doesnt work. as the poster above says, football is a different business, you have your customer base, you won't entice them from elsewhere simply by changing your colour or badge, all you can do is lose them
     
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    We don't need a bloody rebrand. Our 'badge' hasn't made the slightest difference to our commercial activities, it hasn't stopped us achieving record sales of shirts this season or bringing countless new businesses to the club.
     
  16. XCIV_Bantam

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    We do, look at the macron kits got rubber badges instead of stitched ones. Sparks said himself it causes issues.
    Its not to try and increase sales, its to make it easier to create digital logos for all sorts of reasons.
     
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  17. Rogered Tart

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    We've had stitched badges before. I've got them on tops.
     
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  18. XCIV_Bantam

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    So do i.. The current stuff the club has has stitched badges on the training tops and the jackets

    my guess is that macron automate stitching as the badge is just one solid shape with no holes in it. If you look at the old kits “the bantams” part is separate to the badge if that makes sense.


    Also digitally it would be far easier to update the website and leaflets and whatever with the new logo as it will have been designed specifically for a digital age.


    Just because something worked 40 years ago doesn’t mean it still works now.
     
  19. Areyoureadingthisedin

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    everything we get these days is HD or equivalent whether digital or physical so that doesnt stand up imo
     
  20. XCIV_Bantam

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    Its whether it is vector or bitmap; PNG or JPEG. Does it scale up well? Bitmap images notorious for bluring when scaling up to large screens. Is it easy to replicate via a machine for a physical badge? Does it have odd edges or shapes outside of the main badge?

    Thats what a logo redesign is for, not whether it is HD or not.

    If you make a 192 x 192 logo and stick it on a website it doesn’t make the logo HD. Infact HD has little to do with logo creation and display.
     

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