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  1. How

    How Knows Football
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    During a game he wasn’t in charge of, what difference does it make?

    God almighty restrictions now on when he can talk to his head coach. Getting ridiculous.

    Next you’ll be saying he can only speak to him on non match days and then we know he’s had no say on the starting xi.

    He’s backed him with a very strong squad with two weeks to go. Could have been discussing anything at all and you’ve created a non story into a story. Or tried to but think mostly been told to stop the nonsense.

    Mistakes have been made in the past and ones that cost us but we’ve had a good summer so far. Best I can remember for recruitment in a long time.
     
  2. Just Looking

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    So Rahic & Collins were talking at a pre-season game....? Not sure what the fuss is.

    Rahic could well have been giving advice on what MC should do (we did win the game, so not bad advice....) or they could simply be talking about how the preparations for the new season are going, what players they still need, whether they should give any of the trialists a contract etc etc.

    Really don’t have a problem with it.
     
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  3. Dennis

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    I've now received a reply to the email I sent to my former colleague about transfer payments in the EFL. The replies to my questions seem clear, well to me at least! Here's the questions I raised and the replies in full

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    Does the FA, the EPL or the EFL dictate how the transfer payment has to be made?

    If you mean do the football authorities have rules on how transfer deals are negotiated and the payment terms defined then no. Neither the EFL nor the FA instruct clubs on how to structure their transfer deals since they are a commercial matter between the two clubs. There are many factors at work in this. The respective club's cash flow, corporate tax position, VAT timescales are all important considerations as of course and more importantly is the relative negotiating strength of the two clubs.

    The EFL has to be provided with a copy of the transfer agreement for their own registration purposes and in the event that there are problems relating to the agreement in the future. See my answer to your question below


    Are transfer fees paid upfront?

    Some are and many are not. It really depends on how the negotiations are resolved between the two clubs. There are no hard and fast rules on this. From our experience, the higher the transfer fee, the more likely it is to be paid in instalments but even that isn't carved in stone.

    Add-ons for appearances, goals etc are clearly paid over the duration of the add-on period


    Are all transfer fees paid in instalments?

    Certainly not. The majority are although that number is biased by the higher than average figure in the EPL. In the EFL, from our experience about 60% are paid in instalments. I don't have the breakdown between the different divisions.

    Are transfer fees paid over the player's contract period?

    No. Selling and buying clubs negotiate between themselves on transfer payment terms idependently of the negotiation between the buying club and the player on the contract period itself. It would be simply coincidence that the two periods are the same.

    I think I may understand the confusion on this point. You will know as well as I do that the buying club writes off (amortises) the total value of the transfer fee (irrespective of when it is paid) over the contract period in its own accounts in accordance with accounting standards. How the buying club accounts for the transfer payment has nothing to do with what was negotiated between the clubs for the payment of the transfer fee.


    What happens if the transfer instalments are not paid?

    The EFL (and the EPL if one of their clubs is involved in the transfer) has to be provided with a copy of the transfer agreement before the player can be registered at the buying club. This agreement is also the basis to be used if either club defaults on it.

    In the event of a buying club not meeting its obligations to pay future transfer instalments, the EFL has a range of options to enforce the payment without the selling club having to pursue their payment via the courts.

    In the event of a club reporting that it hasn't received a transfer payment instalment, in my experience it is usually resolved informally between the clubs or by a a telephone call or possibly letter to the defaulting club from the EFL. It's rare for that not to be successful but it has happened. If the informal route hasn't worked, the first formal stage taken by the EFL is usually to threaten or to actually impose a future transfer embargo on the buying club. That is usually sufficient especially when a transfer window is imminent. The EFL can also use other funds which pass through the EFL's hands and to divert those funds from the buying club to the selling club to make good the payment. If these don't work or the sums are still not sufficient, the EFL can deduct points or even suspend the membership of the defaulting club. I don't recall any examples of it ever getting to that point in England.

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    I hope this helps other posters to better understand what happens in negotiating payment terms for a player transfer
     
  4. Rogered Tart

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    I'm not sure how people don't quite grasp this concept. Players who think they can better there current position do not sign contract extensions. Why would they? It lessens their hand when negotiating with other clubs. In that position Bradford have to look at cashing in, they cannot afford to lose out on their most valuable asset. Thats what clubs like Peterborough do. The kicker in this is what part of the transfer fee is used to strengthen the team. It should leave you potentially stronger if the fee is fully invested in the first team.
     
  5. The_Parader

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    I must be missing something..
    Where is it said he's unhappy? Where's it said Edin has shafted him? etc etc

    Are we just believing what people stick on social media or has anyone hard evidence? Not trying to ruffle peoples feathers here, i for one, want to keep our main striker for a change. I just don't understand some supporters who are not bothered about him.
     
  6. Damo

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    Here it goes again. To ease the mental burden of one of our better players leaving we have to turn him into a villain or down play his ability.
     
  7. Botswana Bantam

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    @Bronco@Bronco why is it not just a picture of A chairman spending time with his new manager, having a chat and being supportive.

    It entirely depends on the way you spin it.
     
  8. WilsdenBantam

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    Good luck to Wyke, very good player at this level. Still not sure he can make the step up if they go up for the reason that he struggles as a lone striker which most at that level now play. The games I'll remember him for are his debut against Gillingham and Swindon, other than that though he didn't have them big moments I associate with the likes of Hanson and Wells.

    The telling thing for me is although I recognise we've lost a very good player I'm just not gutted like I was with Wells, and it's not just because we were quick to replace him.
     
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  9. ahar964

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    I have said this many times on the forum. Thing is we as a team were incapable of playing to McNulty's (and Hiwulas) strengths. During their time on the pitch both were making numerous intelligent runs into space and behind defenders whilst our ultra-cautious midfield were playing tippy tappy little triangles and keeping possession before deciding to go sideways and give it to Marshall. I sit opposite the edge of the area and their frustration was ever evident. I believe he would have scored many more goals for us a more creative midfield. I hate to say it but the only player who looked capable of supplying those penetrating passes at the time was Vuckic.
     
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  10. Fordy117

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    He tried hard but clearly lacked quality.
     
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  11. Rogered Tart

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    He's better than some on here give him credit for. He deserves a crack at the championship.
     
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  12. Cromy

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    Gary Madine went for 6 mil
    6 f-ing mil
    Not fast and not much movement
    The fact that is contract is nearing its end is bollax.
    If he goes on the cheap it’s because he has been a Twit.
    I don’t think we will get better and I don’t think Rahic will let him go for much under a mil.
    He’s many things but when it comes down to it he is a businessman and not an idiot.
    Surly he reaslise he can offer a good contract with good wages and get a better price in January. Or keep him and have ambition.
    Offering wyke a good deal is in the clubs interest on every front
     
  13. Rogered Tart

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    Got every right to be if he genuinely has an injury. If the lad does move to a big club like Sunderland then good luck to him, he certainly doesn't owe Bradford City anything.
     
  14. Ulysses S Grant

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    Don't be stupid man. Why would we not play him ? He wasn't injured or carrying a knock going into the match so the risk was no higher than any player. We've not accepted a bid for him, we've not had anything other than a club trying to get him for way under his worth and as far as we know he hasn't actually said he wants to go.

    We were preparing for him on the basis that he will still be here. You can't wrap him in cotton wool until the deadline closes "just in case". Your just looking for another reason to slag the club off, and making yourself look stupid doing it.
     
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  15. shoatsy

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    signing a new contract would be nice !
     
  16. Ulysses S Grant

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    And why exactly are they clowns ? Spending more money this season than we have since 1999, fixed the pitch, replacing broken seats, brought the shop back in house, doing the same with catering, reinvented the development squad. All things the previous hand to mouth lot didn’t because they relied entirely on cup runs.

    Yeah if these lot are clowns then bring on the full circus because I’m in for the full ride.
     
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  17. bantamdave41

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    Nonsense. If people wish to come back if results pick up then absolutely fine by me. More money for the club, potentially more investment.

    Choices are allowed.
     
  18. Gardscoigne

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    Ours fans can be so embarrassing at times, it’s cringeworthy.
    We’re all entitled to form our own thoughts but to go n challenge the lad?
    No wonder he doesn’t seem to have a bond in some peoples eyes when he’s faced with that level of intelligence!
     
  19. marshy77

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    Some of the reaction on social media last night was nothing short of a disgrace by our 'fans'. I don't have Wyke down as a player that would fake an injury, I would have thought that he would have asked to be left out if he had the injury before the game rather the embarressment of faking an injury whilst still on the pitch.
     
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  20. Ulysses S Grant

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    To be fair to James Hanson he could do all of that, and at his best was unplayable. If he added five goals a season to his tally he would have been knocking on Bobby's door. Hanson also never gave less than 100% and often played through the pain barrier. Wyke scores more, that makes him a more valued asset in some people's eyes. Not in mine.

    The club's biggest mistake with Hanson was not bringing in either Deano or Bobby to give him some private tuition on technique.

    For wearing the crest on his shirt with pride, absolute effort, being a scorer of "big goals" rather than a big goal scorer and at times making PL defenders look stupid with sheer determination, I'll take Hanson over Wyke any day. I don't think Wyke ever gave the impression that he "wanted" to be here. It was a career move and nothing more.
     
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