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Petrol tanker drivers along with Car transporter drivers were on rather large wedge I understand.
So is it a remuneration problem?

 

they may be on decent money but if they are have trouble recruiting and retaining people there is obviously an issue with either pay or conditions

 

If they are on decent money as you say, how can there be a problem with pay as you again suggest

It can’t be pay it must be conditions but what is their problem with conditions . No different to say train drivers on 50k per annum who work alone 24x7 with a thousand people behind them. Tanker drivers are on more pay than train drivers.

Suggesting pay and conditions is repeating government’s spin. When on earth has a Conservative government been concerned with workers pay and conditions. It a new spin they have thought the gullible public would buy?

 

I said they MAY be on decent money.

If it isn't pay or conditions why are so many people that are qualified to do it not doing it. Why were there so many vacancies pre Brexit/Covid. The spin as you call it is coming from the employers and Haulier Association as well as the government

 

Fuel tanker drivers need extra training and licenses which take extra training although pay and conditions are better to reflect the extra risk, The present shortage is probably due to drivers retiring, sickness and holidays with the Covid restrictions meaning new drivers were unable to complete the extra training .

One of the general problems is that the government refuse to class HGV driving as a skill so get no grants to pay for training which can cost up to £4,000 per driver

 

The number quoted include retired HGV drivers and drivers who held licenses who have since left our shores. Sadly we are being gaslit by Ministers saying 300,000 drivers hold licenses but didn’t mention the above are included in the figures . Source was Newsnight last week.

 

Kind of makes you ask the question as to why N.Ireland and the rest of the EU aren't experiencing the same problems. They are but it's at a much lower level and they are coping much better.
If it looks like Brexsht, smells like Brexsht then guess what. . . it's probably Brexsht.

 

May as well buy soon before the panic sets in, freeze it.
So much Brexsht winning.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9946817/Now-lorry-driver-shortage-hits-Europe-Germany-France-Spain-suffer-shortfall-400-000.html
https://www.bifa.org/news/articles/2018/dec/truck-driver-shortage-crisis-now-spreading-across-the-whole-of-europe

 

Must be true, it's the Daily Fail. One of your links is dated 2018 !! Do keep up. As I stated in my previous post, they are coping much better. I have a few expat friends in Germany and Italy, none have reported shortages, in fact they are a bit concerned over what's happening in old blighty.
Brexsht is what is happening. I hear Marks and Sparks are having to close stores in France. Yet more Brexsht winning.

 

Just seen this on BBC yet another victory for Brexit

Waiting for the first good news story to break can't be long now well worth it all this I'm told

 

Its the DAILY MAIL….

They don’t want you to look here they want you to look over there. It’s called gaslighting the public.

 

Now they are thinking of using army drivers. Brexshters will love that, take us right back to the glory days of 1945.

 

Oh dear.

 

So the blame game continues

The Government are now spinning the shortage of fuel getting to the pumps is caused by someone leaking the minutes of a meeting.

So theGov are saying it’s dishonest to leak the fact fuel can’t get to pumps because we have a shortage of drivers , as opposed to hiding the truth from the public? We know he is an habitual liar.

This tosh about the army driving tankers is utter b/s for the Mail and Express too. If we have more than 100 qualified army petrol tanker drivers I’m a banana. They use commercial suppliers and drivers to stock army and airforce facilities . You watch the idea will quickly fetter away turning into arse wipe newspaper

 

For those wishing to drive petrol tankers……

The government will have it sorted for Xmas peeps… 2024!

The Government don’t tell the public any of this and yet look into the details of what is required driving around the country in what it potentially a huge bomb.



You'll need to:

• be over 18 years of age.
• have a driving licence that includes LGV for lorries, or PCV for buses, if you work with these vehicles.
• have between 1 and 2 years' experience of driving lorries.
• have a Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) - this is known as the Driver CPC.
• 
  https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-training
  

 

We have just had this put through our front door .
Please be aware the thriving community of these towns went home a while ago.

We were in the area last week and market day on Friday the the place where we went was a people desert.

 

There wasn't a problem before the guy from BP said on TV they were having trouble with getting petrol to the pumps, actually stating "but there is no petrol shortage" so what do people do rush to the local petrol stations and fill up their tanks (and in some cases jerry cans) then wonder why petrol stations sell out, just the same scenario with groceries panic buy and wonder why the shelves are empty.

 

No need for that please.

I’m staunch “ We have shot our brains out” but let’s leave that out it bring nothing to the real argument