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Not when you're discussing a technical issue, no.

Second hand information passed by someone paraphrasing isn't a good measure at all. I would have thought any intelligent person would recognise that.

 

I still think people are missing the point in terms of categorizing the burka/veil as an essential Muslim garment. It seems that is the main reason why people think we shouldn't criticize it.

Wearing the veil is an unusual choice in many parts of the Muslim world, apart from Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. Even in Iran, where wearing the Hijab is mandatory by law for women, it's still very unusual for women to wear the veil. There are several Muslim countries that have prescriptive laws on the veil, either banning it or placing restrictions on where it can be worn. Even Egyptian lawmakers are considering banning the wearing of the veil in public places and an Egyptian Imam supported France's ban on the veil.

Whether it is a religious garment or a cultural innovation, it is still an unusual and controversial choice of attire in many parts of the Muslim world and I don't think we should be shy about criticizing it either.

 

You're a lovely human being, aren't you?

 

my own take on it: I couldn't care less what he has to say on the Burka. Whether we agree with his stance or not (I personally don't) he's allowed his opinion on the subject.

What I do object to is this comment here:

"alerting the Telegraph & Argus to posts he has shared over the last few months.Several make reference to banning the Burka from Britain, while others claim that Muslims should 'adhere to our laws' and leave if they don't like it"

As soon as you start making negative generalisations about entire groups of people whether it's race, religion, sexuality or gender you're on very dodgy ground. If Naz Shah (which I'm sure she does) made similar generalisations on Christians or white people I'm not sure half the people on this thread would be such big advocates for freedom of speech. Words come with a consequence and the right course of action was taken.

 

Can we ban L**ds shirts in Bradford? I find that offensive

 

I was offended by Edin Rahic for over a year before he left. And quite a few of the players offended me too.

I wish someone had taken my offendedness seriously.

 

Okay I have now read it.

I can't find the bit where he says anything racist. All I could find was him saying something about burkhas and about if people don't want to follow our laws then they should go somewhere else. Surely that isn't what all this fuss is about!!!

If that is what this story is about I dread the future as it would indicate that the thought police had taken over and that freedom of speech was now a thing of the past.

 

No mate. I don't miss the point. You are the type of person who wanted to spend all their time arguing over words for two decades whilst young girls were getting raped. Now you want to pick at words whilst thousands more are damaged by the drugs trade.

Yes. There are some lovely Muslims. I get it. Everyone knows that. Doesn't alter the fact that we currently have some serious muslim-related problems on our doorstep and people like you want to put a gagging order on everyone and make people frightened to say anything.

No need to reply as we will never agree and you will never persuade me into thinking that the lives of thousands of young girls and thousands of drug addicts was worth you political correctness.

 

I know it doesn't really fit with this subject but I am reminded of Rodney Marsh speaking at some dinner. Recalled the exchange between him and a now retired referee. Paraphrasing now but something like "Oi Ref, If I said you're a c**t you'd send me off, right?" "Yes Rodney" "But if if I thought you were a *@?$ you couldn't do anything about it could you?" "No Rodney", "well in that case, I think you're a c**t".

Delete or ban as appropriate given the sensitivity of the OP subject matter.

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11751182/megan-rapinoe-says-womens-teams-cannot-win-without-gay-players-after-usa-beat-france

I wonder if she’ll be sacked for her comments...? I’m guessing not.

And I’m being facetious- she shouldn’t be. But it’s a similar principle - singling out players on the basis of sexuality and making generic assumptions from a singular point of view.

 

I think it's probably the same science that says straight men make better footballers than gay ones - i.e. the science that doesn't actually exist.

 

So if i have a different opinion or viewpoint on something to someone else i get punished for it. Think very carefully about this.

 

I don’t agree with the guy, but when we start to punish people for having an opinion which may offend some people we may as well give up.

Maybe one day someone will create a mind controlling device, then we can all share the same cordial thoughts like nice inoffensive robots.

 

I'm not saying that at all. I agree that having a different viewpoint isn't seen as an attack. That to me is freedom of speech. However at the same time a different viewpoint doesn't equal fake news. I also think we need to be careful when we say everyone is coming across as offended. Yes I agree sometimes people decide that someone is offended before actually checking with that actual person and PC has gone too far. However I think also what is happening, is that a lot of behaviour has gone unchecked for ages, and people now feel safe to challenge comments and behaviour. Some people now find out they are offending people, think its something new and people are now soft, whereas the reality is they have always offended that person but society didn't allow them to complain until now

 

All well and good but in his role he should maybe be a little bit more discreet in what he posts baring in mind who he will be working with and the community within. Bit of a dumb thing to do imo. Have your beliefs but, especially on social media, be a bit more savvy.

 

The fella should have known better. Only got himself to blame.

 

Can’t we just ban Leeds?

 

Agree with that but shouldn’t we be able to disagree with something without the fear of losing employment? I’m guessing the person in question wasn’t going to go around ripping off burkhas everytime he saw one at his place of employment. Fear of having to surpress your virws because they don’t conform to the views of others at the time has been a problem for centuries.

 

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it would be a great way to play a ringer in a game, sent off one week, stick a burka on the next. Everyones a winner.