Quantcast
  1. Welcome to Bantam Talk

    Why not register for an account?

    Not only can you then get fully involved in the community but you also get fewer ads

  2. Premium Membership now Available


    Please see this thread for more details

    Dismiss Notice

Away vs Mansfield Jan 25th

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by bantamlad92, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. NorthernMonkey

    NorthernMonkey Squad Player
    P.L. 20/21 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    9,747
    Likes Received:
    19,295
    Taylor wasn't contracted in August when we clearly needed a defensive midfielder.
     
  2. Smartmart

    Smartmart Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    1,712
    Agree. But he is now so we’re stuffed.
     
  3. NorthernMonkey

    NorthernMonkey Squad Player
    P.L. 20/21 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    9,747
    Likes Received:
    19,295
    Not really. Sack GB and pay up Taylor.

    Then pretend we want to get promotion.
     
    Bantamsteve likes this.
  4. Mitchelldownie

    Mitchelldownie Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    799
    You were not wrong with the meltdown
     
  5. Mitchelldownie

    Mitchelldownie Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    799
    Never bet on your own team. Emotion clouds the judgement.
     
    Jayteebee likes this.
  6. Mitchelldownie

    Mitchelldownie Emergency Backup

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2019
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    799
    You make out a reasonable general case which would restrict the sacking of managers. But managers are meant in this business to inspire the clientele as well as competently prepare the workforce. Our manager is doing neither. I can’t see him changing. Why wait and delay the inevitable. I said three weeks ago it wasn’t yet time to sack him but nevertheless Rhodes should be canvassing opinion and looking at the available replacement. If, as a responsible CEO, he’d done that he might be in a position to sack on Monday and appoint on Tuesday. And get the galvanic effect required for promotion.
     
    Jayteebee and Onside like this.
  7. Bronco

    Bronco Star Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    38,440
    Likes Received:
    41,617
    As you saw if wasn't a very good game, very few if any could take any credit from that performance, as yourself I think most watching could see it was not working why oh why with Donaldson on the bench didn't he make at least that change at half time.
    At 1 - 0 I could understand Bowyer giving the starting 11 time to get us back in the game but giving players a chance at 2 - 0 was not Bowyers best decision IMO, I haven't heard any of Bowyers post match comments but if he said they will be in training on Sunday that's very reminiscent of last season and most were hoping that was behind us as a club.
     
    Jayteebee, Rocket and Onside like this.
  8. Steve1970

    Steve1970 Squad Player
    P.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 20

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    3,984
    Likes Received:
    5,121
    Rogered Tart likes this.
  9. king karl

    king karl Administrator
    Admin Moderator Supporter P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    5,265

    In Bowyers post match presser he said he asked Donaldson how much he could give and he answered 10 or 15 minutes
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Fordy117 and Bronco like this.
  10. Petrov

    Petrov Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    7,636
    Likes Received:
    15,849
    Fair enough but if that was the case, why bother bringing him on at all?
     
    Dratsab taf and Bronco like this.
  11. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,455
    Likes Received:
    14,490
    Embarrassing.

    What was point him taking him?

    Surely he would of asked him how fit he was before naming the squad.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Bronco

    Bronco Star Player
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Top 30

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    38,440
    Likes Received:
    41,617
    If that was the case why not Oteh one of the front two needed changing and it was not going to be Doyle
     
    Petrov likes this.
  13. brisbanebantams

    brisbanebantams Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 8, 2018
    Messages:
    1,486
    Likes Received:
    1,798
    he did, he asked him during the week how much time donaldson thought he could give the team. donaldson said 15-20 minutes, which is what he got.

    out of interest, who would you have taken in the squad instead? would you have been happy if he'd been brought on at half-time and his injury had re-occurred?

    a player has to start building his match-fitness back up somehow. what way would you suggest rather than playing games and increasing his minutes?
     
  14. brisbanebantams

    brisbanebantams Impact Sub

    Joined:
    May 8, 2018
    Messages:
    1,486
    Likes Received:
    1,798
    because as much as oteh will run the channels, he's not going to compete in the air or hold the ball up. granted, donaldson didn't do much of that in his 15minute cameo but oteh wasn't the sub to make at that time.
     
  15. Petrov

    Petrov Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    7,636
    Likes Received:
    15,849
    Had we been cruising, bringing Donaldson on for the last 15 minutes or so to get him some game time would absolutely have been the right thing to do but we were losing 2-0. It's just poor game management pure and simple. We had a fully fit forward on the bench that just might have made a difference if they had been brought on earlier.
     
  16. Rogered Tart

    Rogered Tart Regular Starter
    P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2018
    Messages:
    17,249
    Likes Received:
    40,974
    Neither was a fifteen minute Donaldson. If we're gonna bring him back at least wait till he can do a half of football.
     
    Bronco and Petrov like this.
  17. Petrov

    Petrov Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    7,636
    Likes Received:
    15,849
    No, he was the sub that should have been made at least 15 minutes earlier, given we were 2-0 down and Bowyer knew Donaldson wasn't capable of more than 10-15 minutes.
     
  18. vin weasel

    vin weasel Squad Player
    P.L.23/24 Entrant

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Messages:
    2,487
    Likes Received:
    3,345
    Exactly. I find him weak as a manager.
    Constantly changing the team and formation.
    Asking players how much they can give whilst not knowing from training?!!
    Signing Ismail when he knew his fitness couldn't see him play every match.
    Having 8 CM's who all play the same role essentially and not addressing it.
    Playing Vaughan and Doyle out of their favoured positions.
    Playing Wood Left side of midfield
    Getting Mellor to keep trying that effing attempt at a long throw when its not yielded one chance all season
    Putting BRE and AOC together is a recipe for disaster, they argue all the time, in fact AOC argues with all his partners when he's to blame for most of it.
    He is always scared to change a formation to go try and win a match when level, always swapping like for like.

    Managers like this don't motivate, they are too pragmatic and put their teams out to not get hammered.
    This is why he was brought in last year, to try and keep us up.
    He's now showing why, as i highlighted in September, his win percentage is so low, why his teams get so many 0-0 draws.
    Why he's not the man to take us forward.
    I wish the club had the balls to have dealt with this situation after relegation.
    Surely they would have had enough time to get to know the guy and see his training methods, seeing that he's not all that
    and was one of the only managers available at the time.
     
  19. bantam2708

    bantam2708 Squad Player
    Qatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    6,602
    Likes Received:
    13,832
    It's even the small things that pissed me off yesterday. Mansfield left 2 pacey attackers up on halfway on the rare occasions we had a corner, so they could counter us. But when they had a corner we had every single player back defending. Even Doyle, McCartan and Connolly who are useless in the air.

    He is so risk averse its unreal.
     
    Onside and Fordy117 like this.
  20. Fordy117

    Fordy117 Just call me Mr Flip-Flop!
    Bubbles car wash

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2018
    Messages:
    17,455
    Likes Received:
    14,490
    Oteh. I would of brought him on. 100% fit.

    Yes, I get it if 2-3 up then give Donaldson a run out but to be honest if a player said I can only give 10-15 min I would of said stay at home, do some work in the gym.

    Send Oteh back if we don't want to use him.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Bantamsteve and Rogered Tart like this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice