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Match Thread Away v Tranmere Rovers Sat 26th Dec 3.00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dennis, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. YungNath

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    You actually kept trying to get me to say I thought trueman was shit and didnt know what he was doing - both your words and not mine?

    Anyone with a pair of eyes can see our striking cupboard is extremely bare, which is why I didn't even so much as mention Trueman in my criticisms of Donaldson. You made that link and not me. I found what you were saying to be really disingenuous in that regard, as it seemed you were trying to conflate my issues with donaldson into me attacking trueman, who I have made extremely clear I rate highly.
     
  2. Dennis

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    I believe it's wrong to scapegoat players unless they are simply being lazy and not performing as they could. Three of those and possibly even the fourth shouldn't be in the 'non-trying/non-performing' box. They are doing as well as they can. They are what they are and it's simply that they are not good enough as professional footballers go. They didn't force themselves on us. The club chose to recruit all of them and that's the club's responsibility and they should face up to that by getting them off the payroll to make way for better players.
     
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  3. Keefly Bantam

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    Oh like all the PL players are though?
     
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  4. YungNath

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    I'd also like to make clear I think it's unreasonable to suggest I'm trying to scapegoat Dondaldson. I am quite happy to explain at length and objectively why I thought he could have cost us the game today.
     
  5. YungNath

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    So no player in the history of competitive sport has carried on playing long past their prime out of a mistaken belief that they can still cut it at whatever level they are at.
     
  6. 1975citygent

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    Perhaps he just likes playing footy
     
  7. Keefly Bantam

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    You are right as scapegoat is really the wrong word. We are not blaming them directly for the results under SM just pointing out how crap they are as por footballers. So yes scapegoat is definitely the wrong word seeing as 3 out of that list do not look like playing again for the club (hopefully).
     
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  8. 1975citygent

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    Truman picked him, you decide.
     
  9. Keefly Bantam

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    You are asking the wrong question really. You should be asking why sports agents are able to get decent contracts for sports people who are approaching their end of their career.
     
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  10. YungNath

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    Decide on what? If you bothered to read my posts you'd see what I think of Trueman, but yet still you persist. It's my birthday today mate and I've got well better stuff to be doing than arguing with people being pedantic because they don't agree with my opinion. I think Donaldsons shit and stealing a wage and it was stupid of the club to offer him a one year option in his favour. I'm sorry that upsets you so much but I'm fairly solid on this one. fecking pissed off now at people jumping on my stuff about donaldson, when I'd much rather be talking about Cousin-Dawsons character at sticking with it after a tough first half for him, or the fact Sutton looks like a great player now he's learnt not to dive in all the time.
     
  11. YungNath

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    Because they're good talkers and some clubs are incredibly easy to fool.
     
  12. Keefly Bantam

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    This is a public forum you are posting on. Make a comment and you have to expect people to comment on it.
     
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  13. 1975citygent

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    What I want to know is where are the Happy Clapping Mafia based? I want to join, they sound like crazy guys (and gals of course).
     
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  14. Keefly Bantam

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    So it's not the sports persons fault then? With that why should CD feel any tinge of regret in extending his deal by 1 year seeing as it was contractually offered to him?
     
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  15. YungNath

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    I don't mind people disagreeing with me in the slightest, but when I have to continually repeat myself to someone who doesn't seem to be that interested in actually reading what I'm writing is where I draw the line.
     
  16. YungNath

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    Things can be more than one persons fault at a time. The reality is, his agents gonna say clayts lad this will be a nice little earner for you at the end of your career and he's gonna say great sign me up. Whether or not he feels any regret when he's not up to it week after week depends on what he's like as a person.
     
  17. Keefly Bantam

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    You have a lot to learn about life pal if you are going to judge a person by the value of their contract of employment.
     
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  18. YungNath

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    I'm sorry what? I've been in positions where I'm 100% not doing what it is I'm paid to do, and my first thought is why am I doing this. Continually failing screws with my mental health and I figured that isn't an uncommon thing.
     
  19. JonButterfield

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    Well because the proof that they were/are good is there.

    Nahki Wells was considered a nothing signing, and disappointing at best.

    There was no data to suggest otherwise.

    Gareth Evans was considered a good signing because he's been a good player.

    There was a ton of data to suggest he could do well.

    Unsurprisingly, Gareth Evans will be on more money than when we signed Nahki. Nahki is a hundred times the player. But that really wasn't evident at the time.
     
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    It's the way a football forum works posters either agree with your comments or they don't, (happy clapping mafia) :innocent: maybe they see that your post in their opinion is wrong, and because they disagree their happy clapping mafia.
     
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