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Match Thread Away v Tranmere Rovers Sat 26th Dec 3.00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Dennis, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. andyc

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    It seem's we always need a player to moan about. We won ,third in a row and four unbeaten.
    Its Christmas , have another drink or a slice of cake and just enjoy for once,
     
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  2. 1975citygent

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    They picked someone you don't think is good enough so surely in your opinion they don't know what they are doing.
    You need to call it a day mate, you're talking far too much sense!
     
  3. Dennis

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    I don't personally attach much blame to Donaldson for this at all. We recruited him and we chose to give him effectively a two year contract. A two year contract for somebody who was already 35 and who had scored goals throughout his career but in the four seasons prior to us had scored just 12 goals in around 90 games! That doesn'tmake sense. He was well past his best when he joined us and anybody at the club with any sense should have realised that a 35 year old takes a lot more time to recover from injuries compared to a 25 year old. Despite us being his home town club, he was a poor appointment and I suspect it was led more by emotion than by by footballing needs. And he is now taking up part of the salary cap and a valuable part of the overall squad size. It's just wrong to assign any responsibility for this to Donaldson. It wasn't and isn't of his making.
     
  4. YungNath

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    I think you need to stop putting words in my mouth to suit your argument. It's ridiculous and insulting. If I said, 'Trueman doesn'
    t know what he's doing', that would mean I didn't think I knew what he was doing. you're also ignoring the rest of my post to try and scapegoat me as a negative person and it's frankly pathetic.
     
  5. YungNath

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    Again the rest of my post was completely positive bar wood's issue with not being able to stop a cross which isn't unreasonable at all. We got a good smash and grab 1-0 win we didn't spank them 5-0 with intricate tiki taka.
     
  6. 1975citygent

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    So you aren't being negative then?
     
  7. YungNath

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    For me it was bad decision on both the clubs and donaldsons part. Footballers are insanely competitive and have a high amount of self belief bordering on arrogance to the average person, which can and very frequently does cloud their judgement. As I say, if the guy looked at what state he's in with a completely clear head, he'd have retired at the end of last season or perhaps before, because he hasn't been offering much for some time now.
     
  8. YungNath

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    No, just balanced and realistic. my full post included both positives and negatives but city fans love a scapegoat don't they.
     
  9. Dennis

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    If the rumours at the time were correct, the club offered Donaldson a very good contract in the region of £4-5k/week for two years. He would have been a mug to turn that down at the end of his career. It's down to the club for making such an offer to somebody who was already past his best. You're being naive imo if you expect a footballer to decline that kind of offer at his age.
     
  10. YungNath

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    because if you know deep down you can't do something and the evidence has borne out that he isn't good enough now, surely some responsibility falls on you for carrying on anyway. He is likely to be one of our top earners and for what he contributes he is stealing a wage in my view. I would also like to register my disappointment that everyone's jumped on the negative parts of my post and ignored the positives.I feel a bit scapegoated by the happy clapping mafia!
     
  11. YungNath

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    Arrogance, denial, delusion call it what you want. He clearly can't see he's past it if he hasn't retired by now
     
  12. andyc

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    Its the whiskey/ amarretto mixture talking, couple more and i will be quite until the morning.
     
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  13. YungNath

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    As I said mate, I think it's poor decision making on both parts and never said I didn't equally blame the club for being so daft.

    edit - I also think its a bit naive to completely disregard natural competitors being blind to the fact they can't compete anymore at something they've done their entire life.
     
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  14. Keefly Bantam

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    We have at least 4 completely gash players at the club right now so its easy pickings really. Don't know why you are so surprised about it. Every club has a scapegoat and this season we have at least 4 to select from. Usually it's 1 or 2 but this season we have been blessed with abject levels of shitness on a whole new level.

    I give you:
    CD
    BRE
    DMH
    CG

    Take your pick.
     
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    He's just a poor man's Lee Novak
     
  16. YungNath

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    Thought we did a good job keeping him quiet today
     
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    Looking on the bright side, when he retires in June we have a massive part of the salary cap available again. Something in the region of 1/6th currently being taken up by one player.
     
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  18. 1975citygent

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    Happy Clapping Mafia? I think you've got issues that you need to get some help with dealing with.
    If I was getting that paranoid I think I would sit down and take a long hard look at myself.
    I did agree with you about Donaldson being past it, my argument was that why is he getting picked if he is longer worth his place, does Trueman know what he's doing.
    HAPPY CAPPING MAFIA!!
     
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  19. YungNath

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    That's my point in a nutshell. As much as it's naive of me on some level if he is a human being he will see he isn't justifying such a big wage in the slightest.
     
  20. JonButterfield

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    Yeah because I heard if you look in a mirror and mention his name three times, he becomes manager of Bradford City again.
     

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