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Match Thread Away v Harrogate Sat 5 Feb @ 1.00pm

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Storck, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. Park bantam

    Park bantam Regular Starter
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    Must admit I listened to the interview and I agree with you. But he is making it hard to see him lasting to much longer at the moment
     
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  2. Botswana Bantam

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    Two questions I would ask Derek ;

    1. What actions or steps are you personally taking to address the poor form and poor results?

    2. To what extent did your scouts contribute to the January transfer window and what are they doing to prepare for the summer transfer window?

    Let's hear what he is doing and drag him away from these generalisations he gets away with for example - "we had lots of good areas" is what he said post-match, what does that even mean? Aside from calling out Canavan and Finn he's never talked in specific actions or steps.
     
  3. Inspector

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    Sparks is stuck between a rock and a hard place. There's a growing number calling for him to act, then when he does, he'll be criticised for doing so and not knowing what he's doing. My guy feeling is he'll keep Adams in place because he has to hope for a turnaround. If we do, he'll sell the fact that we've turned a corner and all will be good next season. If he goes now, that's another chunk of money out of the budget and we start again. I certainly hope he's talking to Rupp about funding his removal without it affecting his budget next season.

    What a mess...
     
  4. Two Legs

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    When things are going badly his arrogant character turns people even further off him. It’s his own fault. He is n’t inexperienced. It’s no surprise that people don’t give him the benefit of doubt.
    Having said that however, in this case there appears no doubt.
     
  5. nicknameless

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    I didn't take it as ridiculing sparks - I took it as a naive (to say openly), but honest appraisal of how he sees it i.e. a club repeatedly sacking managers after 6-12 months gets exactly what that usually results in.

    I just didn't hear "go on then sack me if you dare".

    I suppose you hear what you want to. Maybe I am too - not unheard of.
     
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  6. borderlescott

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    Couldnt care less about his radio interview.

    The bloke is so deluded he thinks we may still achieve automatic promotion.

    He’s offering the club nothing. He’s not developing any players. He’s not laying any foundations. Our team isn’t improving as hoped.

    he blames everyone but himself for the failure. Sparks is too scared to do the right thing and show him the door.
     
  7. nicknameless

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    Yes he is. He wasn't calling the fans out though. I was listening to it waiting for him to have a go at the fans after some of the comments on here. He didn't do so.
     
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  8. Bronco

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    Dare I say we were the better side until they got their fluke/deflected goal, we tried to get back into the game and over committed Diamond winning the ball in midfield and broke away to score the second that killed the game.
    Adams didn't help himself with his subs, as I say we were creating chances both Cook and Elliott doing well, Adams said Elliott was getting a bit leggy so made the change bringing Delfouneso on, the Cooke change was because his legs had gone so he brought Robinson on a strange one as we were still very much in the game and had the likes of Gilliead, Sutton and Daly all better midfield options on the bench, once we went 2 - 0 down the game was over.
    Here is his post match interview I think he has some valid points their keeper was MOTM for them once again we fail to put good chances away they got a lucky break with their first goal, but overall he does himself no favours with other comments, other managers won't take the job as they know the task in hand, I think that applies to any club unfortunately when a club that can draw 12 to15,000+ for home games the task is much harder, he talks about fans having got managers fired in the past, no managers results have done that, and he still believes we have a chance of a top 7 finish.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bmdrvz
     
  9. TheNorf

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    I actually don't think Adams was being entirely unreasonable in that interview.

    I didn't take Adams comments as a direct criticism of Bradford City fans per se, he actually said "many football clubs" don't allow managers time, Bradford City included in that. Mountain out of a molehill.

    Regarding Adams saying that not many managers would want to take on this responsibility. I used to think that was bollocks, but the last time we were looking for a manager I can remember thinking that the quality of applicants was distinctly poor. Paul Hurst was the most high profile out of contract manager in the frame and that was considered a risk at the time.

    He used examples of his previous successes in this division in an attempt to defend himself. But would anybody not do the same thing if they were in the same situation? If you were being criticized for your performance in a job that you have had previous success in, would you not use that past success to defend your present position?

    I don't agree with his analysis of our performances and how "unlucky" we have been, we have mostly been poor. But I don't think he said anything utterly irrational or beyond the pale there.
     
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  10. nicknameless

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    Would love to see where your managerial interviews would get you.

    "Yes guv that's right the season's over before it's finished and it was my fault."
     
  11. Botswana Bantam

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    I can see why he wanted to appoint Adams given his background of promotions and experience, perhaps he should have looked more into his style of play or connection with the clubs and fans?

    Ryan clearly knows what he's doing off the pitch and has improved lots of areas on the non playing side and he put faith in Adams to put the football side right and, looking at his background, you can see why.

    Problem is, Adams just isn't a good fit for the club. It's pretty damming when former players like Jones and Morais can see the disconnect. Adams doesn't really care and that's probably because he's never had to care but right now we're told;

    1. Adams made some of the decisions in the summer transfer window
    2. Adams had input into who left last season
    3. Adams made all the decisions in the January window
    4. Sparks has said the target is promotion
    5. Delfounso confirmed the promotion aim when he joined last week
    6. We're way off the play offs and will be in an even worse position when others play their games in hand

    So, what story is Adams going to spin if we finish mid table? He cna make up all sorts about one particular match but over the course of the season clubs finish where they mainly deserve to finish.
     
  12. Bronco

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    Wow someone else who can't read a simple reply to his original post, take a little more water with your spirit fella.
     
  13. wetherbywhaler

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    Far too many on here have short memories in my view. We had a worse record on two occasions under PP and some shouting for him out but slowly he built a winning team. I don’t know if DA can do the same BUT I do know six months isn’t long enough to be generating all this bile and aggression in Ryan’s direction. Society generally has become intolerant during Covid, people are behaving badly, mobbing and trolling are the actions of the day. CALM DOWN and see you Tuesday.
     
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  14. donhutchinsaffro

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    Its' so easy to say but Flynn should have been our man with Bowyer as the assistant. I thought Adams was the man but like Hopkin he is a square peg .......
     
  15. borderlescott

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    Couldnt care less about his radio interview.

    The bloke is so deluded he thinks we may still achieve automatic promotion.

    He’s offering the club nothing. He’s not developing any players. He’s not laying any foundations. Our team isn’t improving as hoped.

    he blames everyone but himself for the failure. Sparks is too scared to do the right thing and show him the door.
    He has blamed the attitude of the players he inherited. Why not work with them instead of calling them I. I wouldn’t call them out publicly as Adams did, even if I didn’t think they were up to it.

    nobody trusts or likes him and the performances and results show. He’s passed the point of no return now.

    he blamed the scouting network it seems given Turnbull was moved on and he brought in his own men. Then we were told “wait for January.”. We have. Nothings improved, performances continue to decline compared to the good ones in August September.
     
  16. Two Legs

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    I still don’t understand the concept that going 2-0 down in the 71st minute is game over!
    With stoppage there is nearly a quarter of the game left. It’s Harrogate! Why the hell is he accepting that? Where’s the bloody fight? I cannot see anything positive as a reason to keep him.
     
  17. borderlescott

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    The difference was though that the board hung Peter Jackson out to dry that summer and Parky was brought in to rectify the wrongs of Jacko’s low budget, when being asked to work with filth.

    Adams was brought in and handed a competitive budget from the off (top 5 isn’t it?) but very few of his signings have actually improved the side, nor is he developing players he inherited.

    at least with Parky, even in the initial period, we saw him develop Wells from a cameo sub to regular goalscorer. He developed Hanson early on too. Parky’s initial brief was to keep us up and he achieved his goal. Adams’ initial goal was automatic promotion.

    We are in the bottom half of the table and will be lucky to finish top 10……… his time is up.
     
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    Out of curiosity how is Adams win ratio looking is it worse than the Jacko?
     
  19. Claret Fish

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    Huge differences especially by the second time Parky had a poor run he had some time banked from the job he had done with us (not some rubbish about look at his record elsewhere). Parky also had a connection with the fan base this clown has anything but. I am not usually one calling for managers to go but Adams is tactically inept, impossible to like and completely delusional. Any one of the ‘give him more time brigade’ (which I think is shrinking by the match) is yet to come up with a single credible reason that we should stick with Delusional Derek!!! The guy is not a fit for the club has no connection with the fans so please tell me what is to be gained by giving him more time that he has in no way earnt with the piss poor job he has done so far…….
     
  20. Rogered Tart

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    Any chance you can get him to stand up to the manager and sack him, then stand up to our absent owner who clearly doesn't give a shit for this club or its fans.
     
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