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They hate each other more than anyone else to the point nothing really works anymore, thats about my take on it

 

It’s a coup. Nothing less.

 

this is insane, the level of entitlement and complete lack of intelligence or self awareness. If any other groups did what they're doing they'd likely call for them to be shot. I'm in a group on FB that posts snippets from what these nutters say to each other on Parler and this has been coming for a long time.

 

If he’s going down, he’s taking the rest with him, or at least he’ll try. It’s beautiful.

 

You must have missed the weeks of looting and Arson

 

Differences between right and wrong are not 'complex'' to me..

 

By turning tear gas on peaceful BLM demonstrators and then encouraging neo nazi white supremacists to storm the seat of government and subvert the lawful completion of the democratic process.
Is that what he means by making America great and safe?
Funny how it seems to be having precisely the opposite effect around the world - making America look stupid and very wrong - arousing international condemnation. Even arch-bigot Priti Patel has condemned the violence, and Bozo Johnson has at last summoned up the balls to condemn Trump's role in inciting violence.
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And, of course, making America safe in Trump's mind means making it safe for white people to do what the hell they like without fear of reprisal. Whereas black people can be stopped for no reason, beaten, shot and knelt on by the police, even when not resisting; baton-charged and tear gassed - who cares? They're only blacks to him. They don't count. Hardly surprising they occasionally decide to vent their frustration, is it?

 

It certainly doesn't help the idea that Twitter has become, or is becoming, a left wing echo chamber. Has any left wing personality ever been banned from there, I don't know?

I like social media because you could hear a wide variety of opinions, including those you disagreed with, without editorial oversight and bias. That isn't to say that people on there aren't biased but the platform was open to everyone within the law.

Your point about lying is completely pertinent to Trump but if that is the criteria for banning it will be a very empty platform very quickly. Its notable that Chinese politicians and official accounts are Tweeting things about their treatment of the Uighur, are they to be banned as well?

It's a slippery slope.

 

Social media is a dangerous place but i only see a path where twitter and facebook are more dangeous than Donald Trump will ever be when they decide who we can and cannot read and make an opinion on then we are on a very slippy slope. One of the reasons i don't use facebook and only use twitter via a football forum. Theres a lot of 'bending the truth' on all sides of debate, not just Trump. Like only reading one newspaper because of your political leaning then thinking everything they say is gospel.

 

Without turning this into another Brexit thread I don't think that's completely the case.

Those arguing for another referendum were simply people who had voted the other way initially and were finding ways to say things had change, but things always change. People were pushing for a second referendum the day after the result came in!

The similarity here is that there were people within power who would do anything to stop the process being completed. All the shenanigans in parliament using whatever powers necessary to stop and delay were a clear subversion of a democratic vote.

Thankfully we never got to the stage that they have in the US but when trust in the democratic process is broken chaos is the only thing that can follow. When that happens it doesn't matter which way you voted in the first place.

 

I think you're dead right about the condemnation but in this instance it's not really the point. Were the people who incited that.....arguably more directly than Trump....removed from social median. If not, why not?

As for scale. I belive 19 people died and there was over 1BN dollars of damage during the summer, so while I wouldn't want to get into glib numerical comparisons I don't think the scale of the summer should be minimised. It's whether accountability and the rules are applied consistently.

 

I've intentionally refrained from posting on this thread but that single line there is a prime example of why I can't take the majority of what you say seriously.

There's a good debate between the other two posters but your refusal to accept any kind of even minor negativity aimed at the BLM marches dilutes your opinion.

 

The only distinction here between terrorism and rioting in this situation is where it occurred and that people in power were in direct danger.

As for the rest of it you're right but once again focusing on whether you agree with them or not rather than their words and actions.

So, lets get back to the details of what happened and draw exact parallels to try and get you to see my point.

Trump was banned because of the following words



Here are two Tweets from May that I found pretty simply. Both are from accounts that are still live.





This was a picture from the 29th - so before the second tweet had been published. It's obviously not an isolated picture from those nights and by this point 4 people were already dead (including one policeman that the Department of Homeland Security labeled as an act of domestic terrorism). A further 15 people would sadly follow.



"Revolution", "rage", "fire", "protest takes many forms", "invite to meet each night in whatever way we need"

If you're telling me - truly impartially - that the language used on the first tweets incites violence and is worthy of a ban - but the second tweets don't, then I genuinely don't know what context you're using.

 

"Whataboutery" - another leftist term to defend/ignore their own similar indiscretions whilst attacking the very same indiscretions from the right wing.

Whatever happened to people ignoring political leanings and condemning the action for what it was/is rather than basing their opinion on which side of the political leaning the perpetrators are/were?

 

Nothing divides opinion like American politics. What a shit show.

 

America would be better off with the Rock or Captain America in the White House.

 

Give it time!

 

I quite like the idea that America would be run by a super hero with a shield. Would make more sense than watching an election battle with two old fruitcakes in their 70s. And most yanks would actually believe a super hero could save them all.

 

He won't see a year in office. Harris was always primed for the gig