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25 Year 'Season Tickets' (Now with Suites Poll)

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bronco, May 22, 2021.

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VALLEY PARADE SUITES USE

  1. I use them as part of my 25 year ticket

  2. I have a 25 year ticket but don’t use them

  3. I buy a Suite pass but don’t have a 25 year ticket

  4. I use to use the Suite but don’t anymore

  5. I have never used a Suite

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  1. Stafford Bantam

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    I've managed to dig out the summary I did on Claret & Banter on 25 April 2015:
     
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  2. Bronco

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    Totally agree there is so much crap put forward by a few it is becoming a us and them situation, were all Bradford City fans and because they took what was a fantastic offer at the time they shouldn't be castigated because of something they did 20 odd years ago.
     
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  3. SteveC

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    Not a popular opinion I know but I think they should have been scrapped when Rupp took over. The club have been extremely generous to honour the 25 year ST in one way or another. If anything those who bought them were very naive. Football has always been a business and businessmen don’t often stick around for long, especially for 25 years. Like with most businesses, debts are written off when the company is placed into admin, which we were twice, then Gibb and Rhodes took over, then Lawn, now Rupp. I don’t know any other company that would honour anything sold by its 3 x predecessors!
     
  4. Storck

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    If they were going to stop it early the right time would have been during an admin process as that is the time to write of debts etc. it was explicitly covered in the first admin and those with them were classed as creditors and voted accordingly. I think problem happened during second one were we were neither covered as creditors or dealt with.
     
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    Not related But...

    I worked for Diamondseal for a number of years , they offered a cash back option after 15 years but you paid full price without discounts

    They gave you a dated cheque for the full amount of your conservatory , 15 years into the future ... if you lost the cheque you was scuppered (people was framing the cheques and putting on bog walls etc )

    We was never busier , but 14 years down the line the company folded ( as planned )

    Now thats a great business plan :joy:
     
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  6. Storck

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    And presumably they were all counted as creditors.
     
  7. Bronco

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    I've posted this before with regards Rupp purchasing the club (we shouldn't include Edin as part owner) all his input was borrowed money, I'm told Rupp was not aware of the 25 year deal hence why Edin called a meeting with 25 year season ticket holder, where I believe he was wanting the deal to end, which I find strange from a guy who commented in the papers if we got into the Premier League he would only charge £1 for season tickets, it's not as if the 25 yearers were not contributing at all.
    With regards your above high lighted comment your quite right usually any debt is written off before the new owners purchase the business, right or wrong football is a very different animal, would the new owners Julian & Gordon Gibb potentially want to piss off around 900+ loyal Bradford City fans, they made the call and honoured it, some have little time for Julian but I believe the decision both he and Gordon took at the time was the correct one ( then again as a 25 yearer I would) as was the cheap season tickets offer in 2007 it turn out to be a very astute offer IMO.
     
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    It is a shame that City (Rupp/Sparks) couldn't see this deal through for a couple of more years to it's natural conclusion.
    In the grand scheme it wouldn't have cost the club much, but so be it.
    I will be better off now just buying a senior ticket, which is still great value, especially if we go up.
     
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  9. Bronco

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    Can you just buy a senior ticket and keep the seat you have now ?.
     
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    I sit in Midland Rd so I don't think this is a problem, like it might be in suites.
     
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  11. Storck

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    No
     
  12. Bronco

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    I was thinking more of if you weren't taking up the 25 year offer you would be classed as a new season ticket holder and be guaranteed your usual seat because your seat will register online as unavailable.
     
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    It will be an interesting one.
     
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    There were complications not mentioned yet that I was going to start to talk about but I quickly realised it got very complicated and I could not remember them all. Given I do not have all the facts any longer, I'm not going to debate or argue over it. I'll just restate the main original point. I did not get any money back and I understood only a quite small minority did. I have had to pay for suites I've never used and many are in the same boat. I paid for a free ticket for 25 years but am now paying nearly full price to attend games despite shelling out not to. I'm not freeloading and I suspect most 25-yearers are similar. I don't hold it against the club. It's a bit cynical the way the benefit we did get out of the admins has subsequently been chipped away at but we were lucky to get anything. I have probably brought several new fans to the club and will myself pay for at least 7 season tickets next season plus some match-day spending for some of them. I pay plenty and I'm happy to do so regardless of some ignorance on social media.
     
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    @Aleman@Aleman this is bullshit
    “”I understood only a minority used credit cards and only a small minority of them claimed a rebate and continued to take discounts offered as this would be punishable legally as financial fraud. This was pointed out by some in online discussions at the time and subsequently so anybody who has done or is doing so should be well aware that they are committing a financial crime.””

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    I sit in the upper Kop in the same seats I’ve had since the new Kop was built. I have no desire to move seats into the Bantams bar area but wish to continue using the suite.
    Are the club now telling me that’s not possible?
    This is something I’ll bring up with Ryan Sparks directly if true.
     
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  17. Kopendin1964

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    I’m wondering the same
     
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    I think it is due to the restrictions on numbers allowed in the bar, which matches the number of tickets in the cordoned off area. This probably hasn’t been an issue before as they haven’t sold out but if they are close to doing so it would mean not being able to sell a seat in that area due to no room in the bar
     
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    you can if you are not in one of the following areas, bantams Bar or the areas in the upper main stand marked off as hospitality, think it is the blocks marked EX
     
  20. Onside

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    Where is the Patrons Bar?
     

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