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Furlough Leave

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Bantam-in-Greece, Apr 1, 2020.

  1. Storck

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    Are there?
     
  2. Bigrod

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    Can you provide any evidence to back this up? Some link to a credible source of information.

    I am not sure what your income is, but have you given yourself a pay cut? Have you given your employee's a pay cut? Have they come to you and said we will take a pay cut?

    Are you donating the saved pay, subject to some profit after a reduction in income, to some form of Coronavirus Charity?
     
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  3. Fordy117

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    No I haven't, no I won't be and I wouldn't tell people to either. I wouldn't advise anyone to take a pay cut even in these times. Defer wages maybe(if you can afford too) but not a pay cut.

    My sole point is don't tell people to do something when you are not doing it yourself and that's that.
     
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  5. Bronco

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    Why did the PFA throw players under a bus ?.
    Wouldnt footballers at lower league clubs be getting the same as any ordinary worker who was laid off because the company they worked for could no longer trade, or do you think Rupp should continue paying their full salaries out of his own pocket.
    With regards Premier League players I would hope the longer this situation continues they will see how the very people that help pay their wages are struggling financially and make some sort of financial gesture, as we have discussed above I would think some might have done that anonymously.
     
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  6. How

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    Not sure why there’s such a call for players to take pay cuts and especially premier league footballers.
    They pay their taxes and a hell of a lot more than most. Are paid PAYE and don’t hide it like a lot of the big millionaires and billionaires of this country do.
    A lot have already made financial donations. Pep donated 1 million, rashford feeding school kids in Manchester etc etc.
    I don’t get it. They signed these contracts. The top clubs should continue to pay staff but that’s on the owners who are in the majority of the premier league clubs case billionaires.
     
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  7. Bronco

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    Just my opinion @How@How.
    Don't we all pay our taxes ?.
    Not disagreeing with regards tax free havens where the rich siphon off there money.
    I have already made the comment about players/managers and also ex-players making generous donations, and we agree great gestures.
    During my working time I also signed an employment contract and it was meet by both parties, that is until the company fell on hard times and then to get the company through a tough period the workforce took a reduction in salary , I assume the directors etc did the same.
    It was done to save jobs and ultimately save everyones livelyhoods , so back to the point Premier League players could show their clubs fans that they are aware of things outside their bubble and are also prepared to do their bit to show the fans they also care about their club going forward.
    With regards many football club owners being multi millionaires/billionaires, I would think many also own companies that are laying their workers off, why are Premier League footballers any different to the shop floor worker with in the likes of Mike Ashley's companies.
     
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    Its a good point - footballers are easy targets in many respects. The context has been skewed though - the original question to Matt Hancock was specifically in the context of non-playing staff being furloughed, not an arbitrary 'footballers should take pay cuts'. Its not right that non-playing staff, who're largely going to be on modest incomes, be furloughed and possibly lose out financially when very, very highly paid football players are exempt from any financial impact. The question has been raised and its unfair to pass judgement until there's a fresh response. I suspect that most players will be prepared to make a sacrifice for the greater good, given the circumstances. But similar questions need to be asked elsewhere. Example - Richard Branson wants a taxpayer bailout of his airline. This is the same fella who, as the major shareholder for that airline, is worth over £4bn, has his own island, does everything he can to offshore his businesses to minimize tax contributions and who's previously SUED the NHS for not being awarded a contract he thought they should've been awarded! That's far more deserving of scrutiny.
     
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    Would that be the same Richard Branson who on the 16th of March decided his employees take 8 weeks unpaid leave?
     
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    Aye, that's the fella.
     
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    But his employees are cordially invited to spend those 8 weeks at Necker Island and have to travel via Virgin Airways.
     
  12. JonButterfield

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    You misunderstood.

    Those employees are not allowed within 10,000 miles of Necker Island.

    And it's certainly nothing to do with coronavirus, either.
     
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    To be fair if premier league players couldn't be paid for a year, they would still have millions in the bank,
     
  14. Storck

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    would they?

    All of them?
     
  15. Fordy117

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    Henderson organising Premier League coronavirus fund for NHS - behind the Times paywall (Joyce/Lawton)

    Jordan Henderson is organising a Premier League coronavirus crisis fund for the NHS that will run into millions of pounds.

    The Times understands that the Liverpool captain has spent the last few days contacting the captains of other Premier League clubs to pitch the idea.

    The initiative being led by the England international pre-dates the scathing comments made by Health Secretary Matt Hancock, who called upon top-flight footballers to “play their part” during Thursday’s government crisis briefing.
     
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  16. How

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    Oh dear @Fordy117@Fordy117

    care to comment, Joshuas fight now be cancelled in June. You sure they were in talks with the government.
     
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    Premier League meeting outcomes:

    - Indefinite suspension, resuming when "safe & appropriate"
    - £125m advanced to lower leagues(EFL and National league)
    - PL £20m to NHS & others to help on pandemic
    - Clubs consult players on 30% pay cuts/deferrals & Saturday meeting involving PFA, PL, players & clubs

    EFL season suspended indefinitely also.

    Clubs risk Champions League exclusion if seasons abandoned prematurely

    Uefa, Europe’s leagues and top clubs determined to finish season
    July and August finishes are being looked at

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/03/clubs-risk-champions-league-exclusion-if-seasons-abandoned-prematurely-uefa
     
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    That fight was for June. With Fury v Wilder moved to October that fight was always going to be moved or postponed.

    Hearn could just be looking at AJ v Fury now. Hearn has said he looking at making Wilder an offer to step aside so AJ can fight Fury.
     
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    Rugby Leagues Super league chief executive Robert Elstone as taken a 40% pay cut

    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    If a business can afford to pay all staff in full like PL clubs can then they shouldn’t be asking anyone to take a cut nor should they be using the furlough scheme.
    I changed jobs in March and am currently getting feck all income.
     
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