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York today

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by BCAFC LEE, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. Rogered Tart

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    As I said before, don't let the position fool you.
     
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  2. Petrov

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    Are you saying the table lies?
     
  3. Rogered Tart

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    For the third time, don't let the position in the table fool you. We finished where that team should have finished. It was never good enough. Winning games without a shot on target or one or two shots on goal, its not sustainable.
     
  4. Petrov

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    Nobody is disputing things went tits up in the second half of the season. You seem reluctant to accept things were going pretty well up until then.
     
  5. teddie7

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    From memory they did half each ? seem to remember Stuart joking his side drew but Kenny's side lost ?

    Could have been one of the other friendlies though ?
     
  6. Rogered Tart

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    I seem reluctant because i saw what the product on the pitch. I went to nearly every game home and away. What i saw, in my own opinion, was a team that in no way could sustain the position in the table, the performances did not justify the position in the table, even if the results did. It may have come as a shock to some that we dropped down the table, it came as no surprise to me. What did shock was how McCall had kept such a piss poor squad, at a club that was in turmoil behind the scenes, so high for so long. Looks like i was proved right.
     
  7. Keefly Bantam

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    You seem confused there buddy.Winning games without a shot on target? WTF are you on about?
     
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  8. Rogered Tart

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    Christ sake is there something in the air this evening. We played Shrewsbury away from home, we didn't have a shot on target, the only goal of the game was a deflected cross from Gilliead.
     
  9. Keefly Bantam

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    SM was in the dugout for both games. Why wouldn't he be?
     
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  10. JonButterfield

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    Result means nothing, but wow, there are some players in our squad who really shouldn't be there...
     
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  11. Keefly Bantam

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    Is that it? The whole crux of your point is that we score goals be deflections and that is somehow bad?
     
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  12. Rogered Tart

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    Haven't you got someone else who can give you some attention?
     
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    **shock
     
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  14. BoingBoing

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    This is typical Keefly. Doesn’t like being proved wrong, asks for evidence and then tries to squirm out of it. There were quite a few performances where we didn’t deserve more than a point but somehow managed 3.
     
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  15. BoingBoing

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    Nope. Did someone tell you I was trying to be funny?
     
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    When you finally take off your rose tinted glasses, you will see that there are big problems at the club and has been since the end of December (if not before). You keep your head in the sand if you like, but it’s not just a couple of pre-season losses that concerns fans. We’ve been regularly losing games since fricking January...!

    We have brought a lot of new players into the club and the 2 games so far have shown the coaching staff that they simply aren’t good enough. You did note that Barnsley smashed 7 past this team and we only managed 1 shot on target?

    But it’s ok, because it’s only a friendly. Good grief...!
     
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  17. JonButterfield

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    While we'd like to smash a bunch of goals past teams like York, one glance at the various XI's we've fielded in the first two friendlies show we haven't put out anything like our first eleven.

    The first XI, probably, is going to be okay. Yes, we have nothing out wide in terms of experience, and that's a concern - yes, our striker situation is also concerning particularly if we sell Wyke, BUT ---

    What these friendlies have outlined for me, personally, is that we are signing far too many players who lack the quality to be first team contenders not only right now, but in the years to come.

    That's not a surprise, considering how badly the last development squad farce fared. Signing a million and one youngsters who haven't a hope of making it just isn't a good policy, no matter how cheap they are.

    While players like Riley and Seedorf may or may not be good enough for League One football right now, there's no question that players like Gunner, Brunker, Patrick, and Devine lack the potential to make it.

    It's likely (but not certain) that we can add Isherwood, Wood, and a few others to that list, but we're too busy pussy-footing around the subject of inadequacy that we aren't trying to offload these guys (who are here to make up numbers and nothing else).

    The development squad is ridiculous, and we won't make a penny out of it.

    The only player we signed worth a penny is Wyke - and we've gone from demanding £5 million to considering £500,000 in the space of seven months.

    Why anyone would take us seriously as high-end sellers I've no idea - we should have rejected the Wyke bid out of hand and publicly declared it as 'derisory', but then we don't really know what we're doing.

    At the very top of this club sits a guy with no real idea how to progress us going forward. He sacked a very popular and solid, experienced manager, replacing him with a guy who wouldn't renew terms after only six months, and then replaced HIM with a fella from the U18's coaching staff.

    We have signed a bunch of players with absolutely zero value, and signed another handful for a considerable collective sum of money, and they're worth naff all as well, Wyke excepted. Now, we're on the verge of selling our one asset for a figure that WILL NOT cover the value of the other players we signed. We have a 'hope' that players like Jones and McCarten might come good, but probably won't, and we have a squad full of experienced centre backs and defensive midfielders and virtually nothing else.

    What's more, the individual that was in charge of our god awful, overly expensive recruitment is now our assistant manager, because it was probably easier to blame Stuart for our downturn in form last season than the team that FAILED to sign a single decent centre back capable of playing more than three games despite the obvious deficiency. Don't worry, though, now that our promotion push is well behind us, we've brought in four.

    Great work, guys.

    Great f---ing work.
     
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  18. Skyebantam

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    Congratulations. Were you there a few yrs ago at York for pre season? I travelled from the western isles for that feast of football, so do i get some kind of pre season at york, top trumps? We only took a few to St Johnstone as well, i thought to myself at the time as i basked in the perth heatwave, how piss poor it was :rolleyes: i was sitting there for 90 mins seething, not because i drove 5 hrs for a loss, but because of how lazy our fans were. What a ridiculous post.

    The atmosphere is crap at the club and with good reasons, the fans are split. I tell you what, these first couple of pre season games were an opportunity to build some confidence and get a few of the doubters on side perhaps, bearing in mind they are only friendlies. After all, the gaffer said he was taking it seriously. Which is a worry. It is so far working like a dream.

    As others say, it was john smiths cup day in York. England were playing too. And ultimately, our joint owners have done bugger all to warrant many fans seeing why they should even bother going to a game like today. I don't blame them for staying away, it was clearly the correct choice.
     
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  19. Tennesseebantam

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    Yes but Skye, apart from the footy, what else is there to do in St. Johnstone? I mean I've never heard any good stories about nights out in St. Johnstone. IS it as bad as Raith?? :confused::confused:o_O;)
     
  20. Jonny78

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    068B97F5-17AB-43DD-97B3-854951A07B5D.png Anybody know who he is someone put on Twitter he’s the no 7 who played well
     

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