You can easily find hypocrisy in whataboutism, that's why so many social media dummies rely on it.
The lack of moral perfection does NOT render all other causes pointless, and those that assume that are lazy.
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Most liked posts in thread: Would you rather City get promotion or England win Euros? Now with poll
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JonButterfield Star PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
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bantamlad92 Squad PlayerP.L. 21/22 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Entrant
England.
Once in a lifetime feat.
City can earn promotion any season.Tingleyb, bradnotbradley, Doodle and 1 other person like this. -
Alternatively they can win the World Cup.
So once in every two years there is the opportunity for England to win a major tournament.Kevin1954, Bronco, Idlebantam and 1 other person like this. -
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Tbh, at the moment, because it’d be such a one off, and maybe the only time I’d see England win a major tournament, my vote goes for them. Though it is very close, under normal circumstances it’d be City every time. Be nice to be up here and us win it.
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England win the euros all day long
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bailiff bridge bantam Impact SubP.L.22/23 Entrant Euro 2020derrickh100, Rogered Tart, Bronco and 1 other person like this.
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Interested Bystander Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro 2020Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Doodle, Allotment Bantam, Offcomedun and 1 other person like this.
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Offcomedun Important PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Supporter Euro2020 Winner Euro 2020 P.L. 20/21 3rd Place
This government and what it stands for, are light years away from the values espoused by Southgate, Sterling, Rashford et al. It will be the height of hypocrisy if they jump on the football bandwagon (which they otherwise have no interest in whatsoever, being largely a bunch of public school rugger-buggers) and try to use it for their own jingoistic purposes. But then hypocrisy and this government go hand in glove.
And as for 'never miss an opportunity' - I have been unusually quiet on the political/Brexit front for months. I've seen lots of opportunities to post critical material but have chosen not to, because banging my head against a brick wall becomes tedious after a while.Doodle, Petrov, Allotment Bantam and 1 other person like this. -
WilsdenBantam Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...Interested Bystander, 1975citygent, Bronco and 1 other person like this.
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Meltham Massive Squad PlayerP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant P.L. 20/21 Top 20 Euro 2020
In the 70s & 80s the national front and later the EDL tried to hijack the football team and our flag, in the 90s Blair was as bad as Boris is now. Remember the Cool Britannia nonsense culminating in Prescott getting a bucket of water tipped over his head when made to attend the Brits!
At the Rugby World Cup in 2018 Brain Moore very publicly told Boris the bandwagon to f**k off when he appeared on the telly in his replica England jersey.
The England team, the flag and our nationality are NOT something attached to a political belief ! From the staunchest guardian reading remainers to the most hardline sun reading leavers, from the COVID cautious to the conspiracy theory nut jobs, get behind the team FFS!!
We were England before Brexit and we’ll still be England in the future, no matter what our idiot leaders do or don’t do they can’t take away our birthright!
Across the Nation, in Pubs & Bars, at BBQs and living rooms all over the land let’s all be as one and cheer England to victory! (Unless it is at the expense of a City promotion in which case Come on Italy!)Bantam Boy, Idlebantam, WilsdenBantam and 1 other person like this. -
Rogered Tart Regular StarterP.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 EntrantSergio Pinto III, WilsdenBantam, Interested Bystander and 1 other person like this.
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So we lost the Euros final and I don't feel half as bad as after a City defeat.
Maybe it's because we will not have all the part timers telling us how great England are.
I suppose there will be all the usual mob violence around by the usual scum, so overall, yes, City mean much more to me than Engerlandbroadsword, vladimir, The Evidence and 1 other person like this. -
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You’d like to think with age comes wisdom, but I’ve a feeling their traits are being passed down to the next generation and so the cycle continues.Kop View, broadsword, Kevin1954 and 1 other person like this. -
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WilsdenBantam Squad PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant Euro 2020Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...broadsword, Bronco, Dennis and 1 other person like this.
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I've travelled all over the place, never had an issue because I am English - apart from a badly timed joke I made in Argentina about the Falklands so I probably brought that on myself.
The people I know who claim everyone hates us are unlikely to have gone anywhere save from Benidorm or England away games. They might want to think about why people they come across on those trips have an issue with them.Bigrod, Stoneski, Interested Bystander and 1 other person like this. -
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JonButterfield Star PlayerQatar 2022 Entrant P.L.22/23 Entrant P.L.23/24 Entrant
This one isn't even particularly challenging as far as hypotheticals go! Even more so knowing your choice is irrelevantWilsdenBantam, Storck and Kop View like this.
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