Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

My wife works in a secondary school. They very much expect to not be reopening until next school year.

 

Huge promotion of his betting site to the Chinese market - who love the Prem. he’s very happy with what the shirt sponsorship is bringing to his company so far.

 

Just end the season now based on the current tables and finish the playoffs to decide the final teams to be promoted. We can deal with the legal ramifications later.

Some teams will argue the toss about "Well if the pandemic didn't happen then this might have happened or that might have happened and we might have got promoted or we might not have been relegated" but it's all speculation anyway.

This season is over, done with and I don't think it's reasonable that we could re-start it without damaging the following season or risking the health of our players. I'm not a lawyer but if teams did decide to take it to court would their arguments even stand up? "We could have been promoted if a giant asteroid hadn't hit the Earth and the football league didn't abandon the season."

 

I am shocked to hear this as I have known Steve for several years. Do you know when he died or when it was reported in the Spen paper. Thanks.

 

Take this or leave it, but I’m led to believe that the majority of the restrictions currently in place will be in place until July, then relaxed over a period of anything from a couple of months to a year. Possibly with further tightening and loosening of restrictions along the way. Depending on the speed of Vaccines etc. What that means for Football, we’ll see. But personally I don’t think any leagues in this country will be resumed for the current season.

 

There’s no guarantee that there’ll be enough time to complete next season in full even if we abandon this one. There’s more chance of completing 25% of a season than a full one.

I just don’t understand the sheer desperation from some to void the season other than those with a vested interest..
I’ve never once said that it should be started again in June. I’ve said hold off until it’s completely safe then finish this one before we start the next one. That would remove all health worries. It would also make zero difference financially to clubs because if they can’t play football until a set date anyway then it doesn’t matter what season it is classed as, it will make zero difference to their finances.

Also, onside said that the fairest thing to do was to scrap the season which is clearly the opposite of the truth.

 

There's furious debate on news and social media after Wetherspoon's late trading statement indicating an assumption it might reopen at the end of June.

https://www.rns-pdf.londonstockexchange.com/rns/3885L_1-2020-4-29.pdf

"The company’s current assumptions are that its pubs will remain closed until late June 2020."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8270309/Wetherspoons-plans-open-pubs-June-coronavirus-shutdown.html


They'll have to restart football to keep players out of the pubs!

 

Gavin Williamson the Education Secretary said yesterday schools would definitely not open during what is the normal summer holiday.
Presumably any prospect before then depends on the five conditions all being met which may or may not happen but look unlikely.

 

If that happens there will be uproar. Ok so key workers get tested, quite right but what about the rest who need to get back to normal jobs, normal one man businesses, schools and unis?
As for us over 70s we just get ignored and risk death just so some self important people get to kick a ball around. Don't think so, if that happened the Govt would loose a massive number of votes in my view.

 

Privately funded or not, Rod, it would still send the wrong message and even if games behind closed doors would you seriously suggest the Authorities could stop thousands of Scousers, Leeds fans or those of other clubs gathering outside stadiums when their team play inside.
I know they were demonstrating but look at the hundreds of Coventry fans who stood outside . Northampton every other week when they had nothing to play for.

 

https://www.football365.com/news/return-football-lift-morale-minority-john-nicholson

Interesting take on things. I agree with much of this.

 

Completely agree. Unless and until all businesses have an opportunity to resume, football shouldn't come back.

 

Antibody tests show 10.5% of NYPD and 17.1% of Fire Dept/EMS test positive (so these would be total infected by early April). I've now logged around 17 blood studies that show infection rates are 10 times or more higher than local swab tests indicated. No blood studies I've found show much less than this as yet. Mortality rates from these studies range from around 0.05% to 1.0% but most concentrate in the 0.1% to 0.4% area. (Recent years flu average is around 0.15%.) Large variations are due to variations in those tested - urban/rural, age, activity, etc. It's not easy to quickly get figures that represent average populations.

Https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/cuomo-reveals-preliminary-fdny-and-% to % rangeypd-antibody-test-results/2395308/

Football would probably be okay to restart with level of 0.1-0.4%, even with crowds at the low end - but a few studies have been higher and would probably be too high so we must be cautious. Also, local figures will vary and there has been no blood study in the UK yet. Why not?

 

Totally agree. Germany's R figure has increased in less than one week since restrictions were eased and Merkel has made a statement this morning saying they are looking at the effects of easing because cases have increased and further lockdowns may have to come back. The classic of doing things too quickly and as I said above, once you start playing even behind closed doors to finish the season there is no chance supporters will stay at home even if they can't access stadia.

 

Many eyes will be on Germany. They've taken many plaudits with how they've approached things so far, but they may serve as a real indicator as to the consequences of moving too early to ease things. Its not my area of expertise, but the growth/reduction in infection rates is exponential, so the lower we get the R Rate before relaxing things, we'll be in a better place to control and limit the inevitable increase once things start to relax - by several orders of magnitude. if 1.0 is the 'cap', 0.7 doesn't seem low enough to me to release restrictions. But what do I know.

As I posted last night, for all the noise around an 'exit plan', I'm led to believe that most of the lockdown controls we have now will be here until July.