Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

The lower leagues did . Plenty of anger there , like i said should they be allowed to re-start their season ?. Do you honestly think fans would not turn up outside venues ? the police and alll emergency services would still be involved .

 

I've also lost a friend and fellow city supporter , brings it home . This is the main reason i dont want football to start until this pandemic is completely over or an effective vaccine is available .

 

Non-league did it to safeguard the future of some clubs.
The others are issues that can easily be overcome. Your argument holds no water. You’re looking for excuses to cancel the season. Goodbye.

 

UK schools to reopen in phases from June 1 at earliest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52469939

Since lots of organisations are doing it now as far more kits become available, it's pretty obvious there is more blood testing results behind the scenes that will probably give more infections and lower mortality than the swab testing regimes that have maybe misled a bit (based on about 15+ small blood studies published so far). Major League Baseball have not published their prelimary results yet but they will have them and they are pressing on with a plan to play soon. Maybe France is one of a few countries that have not done blood studies yet so do not have confidence to proceed yet?

Also some ice hockey restarting:

http://www.nahl.com/news/story.cfm?id=29457

 

Total shite . You haven't a clue really have you . Goodbye

 

I guess you are talking about Steve Slator.Steve was City through and through,you could go in his shop to buy some electrical product,and spend all your time talking about City.A big loss to Cleckheaton and to City.

 

Try telling this to the Premier league I really think they believe they're above all this and can actually do what they like. Your point about people turning up at grounds where matches are to be played behind closed doors I hope is something to be considered by the powers that be.

 

Welcome home Offy..

 

He will not accept any other opinions , i've asked him questions he doesen't answer them , i didn't think any of my replies were controversial . Anyway i wont lose any sleep over it . Keep safe Tony .

 

I read earlier from Gary Neville that in terms of finishing the season with behind closed doors football, the estimated cost of testing alone would be 200k per club. L1 and 2 clubs just dont have it. Throw in the additional costs, drop in revenue etc. It wont happen.

I think the point on people movement is valid too. I said it weeks ago. Finish the season and what happens when liverpool win the league? Half a million scousers are going to celebrate quietly in their own homes are they? And leeds will do the same? Nonsense. They'll be round each others houses, street parties, congregating in parks etc.

 

You've hit the nail on the head , i've been off here for awhile so did'nt see your comments, to expect fans of any sport not just football to stay away from games is pie in the sky . I tried pointing this out but to no avail sadly .

 

I’ll ask you the same questions in reverse. Will the governing bodies potentially ruin two seasons for the sake of this one finishing because “we want it to”?
Fair or not the football calendar is set up to run from summer to summer with some wiggle room for movement.

 

Austria has relaxed congregation rules to 10 from Friday. Some Australian states only ever limited congregations at 10 or less - indoor and out. Some states went further but have sinced relaxed again. You guys may find your caution is well founded or not by the results but the rest of the world is relaxing everything now so we will find out whether partying will be ok or not before the UK gets there. Austria's two week first phase of relaxation for smaller shops and primary schools has seen new infections continue to fall. And Sweden, well, their daily deaths by date of death are down 2/3rds and they never banned anything. New infections are flat there but they have been increasing testing like us so their - and our -hit rate has fallen sharply in recent weeks, meaning new infections are getting harder to find.

We need to unlock and take a few risks to do so. Economic damage causes deaths. There was an estimate that the last recession caused 130,000 preventable UK deaths afterwards. The current recession already looks likely to be 2 or 3 times worse than that. Nobody talks about the future deaths being caused by STAYING in lockdown. That is hard to show on TV. What would you decide if you were told that the austerity resulting from the economic damage from each day of lockdown caused maybe 5k or 10k UK deaths somewhere in the future?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/perfect-storm-austerity-behind-130000-deaths-uk-ippr-report

 

Say this season ends, next season starts and a player tests positive. Then what? You have the same problems then that we would have now if we restarted. That's why I don't understand this end the season now argument.

 

But let’s say it’s September it restarts, you will have a new set of tv money, some form of ticket sales (?). All players contracts arranged as old ones have run out and transfer windows completed. Plus I imagine sponsorship runs season to Season for clubs etc. UEFA can look to restart the European competitions etc etc.

We wait and wait and wait for this season to be finished and we miss out on a lot of time to protect clubs and the game as a whole.

if a players tests positive then we put them and anyone he came into contact with into quarantine I imagine? Same as this season if it was to be finished. Wouldn’t change anything.

 

I agree. The questions for me are around the levels of risk and the levels of tolerance we have for those risks. I’m extremely concerned about the economic challenges this country is going to face. We do need to start re-opening elements of the economy and every day life. But I don’t think football should be anywhere near the front of the queue and I think the controls being mooted are unworkable. Unless the risk is either more clearly framed as being lower than we might have thought, or there’s a collective will in the game accept those risks then I don’t see how the game will be back until the autumn.

Interestingly at today’s government briefing there was reference to ‘transmission being less likely outdoors then indoors’, due to ventilation. I wonder whether that was planting the seeds for some sports being allowed to restart on the premise that the ‘risk isn’t high’.

 

the main bit about the date is ‘at the earliest’. That is to give schools 4 weeks notice to work it all out, but currently they haven’t been told so every week that goes on push the opening back a week.

 

Just read the article in full. The June 1st date was from one of the heads unions and was given over a week ago, so you can push that back a week already as they haven't been told yet.