Where will it end... 12th September as it happens

Can't make any sense of these numbers...or are they tonights lottery winning numbers....?

 

Interesting that the FA have published their guidelines for the return of grassroots football. Competitive training and fixtures allowed to return for 5, 7 and 11 a side etc.

Obviously no requirement for any testing to occur which lends the question - if grassroots football can return up and down the country, without testing, do professional clubs really need to spend thousands a week on testing?

 

Surely when we return it’s a case if we get players tested with symptoms? Carry on as normal otherwise?

 

I suppose we'll have to wait and see but it makes no sense that the pro game needs to get tested to do the same things joe public can do.

 

Yorkshire down a bit more even though England is up again. Bradford still poor but improving.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/location-breakdown-11-areas-yorkshire-18621403

Bradford's Pillar 1+2 combined since available from 3rd of July is:
38 ,28,14,39,26,22,30,27, 21,29,36,38,33,32,27

 

Interesting breakdown by area of Bradford. Any area not listed has had 0,1 or 2 cases


The latest figures show positive cases from July 6 through to July 12.

Low Moor - 3

Buttershaw - 3

Horton Bank - 6

Wibsey St Enoch's - 3

Scholemoor - 3

Canterbury - 7

Holme Top - 11

Shearbridge and University - 15

Brown Royd - 10

Girlington - 14

Toller Lane & Infirmary - 8

Heaton Highgate - 14

Chellow Heights - 4

Allerton - 9

Cottingley, Harden & Wilsden - 4

Saltaire & Baildon West - 4

Frizinghall & Heaton Grove - 6

Manningham & Lister Park - 9

Undercliffe - 24

Thornbury - 8

Barkerend East - 5

Keighley Central & East - 9

Cleckheaton - 3

Heckmondwike North - 7

Birkenshaw - 3

Positive cases in Bradford over the past week:

Friday, July 10 - 22 cases

Saturday, July 11 - 31 cases

Sunday, July 12 - 34 cases

Monday, July 13 - 37 cases

Tuesday, July 14 - 33 cases

Wednesday, July 15 - 35 cases

Thursday, July 16 - 16 cases

 

Still hanging in there @stork , and some have the gall to have a go at us Wibsey lads .

 

These numbers are meaningless if you don’t have the number of tests done to create the number.

 

not really as tests are open to all those who think they have symptoms. The option is there for everyone to be tested. I would say population size of each area is more important

 

Yorkshire cases up a bit again, driven by Kirklees and Bradford, which accounted for over half. Last three days:

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/location-breakdown-11-areas-yorkshire-18621403

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/location-every-coronavirus-case-yorkshire-18625195

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/area-breakdown-119-new-coronavirus-18631651

If I've made no mistake, Bradford's Pillar 1+2 combined since available from 3rd of July is:
38 ,28,14,39,26,22,30,27, 21,29,36,38,33,32,27,27,33

Many migrant areas of the UK seem to be importing cases from where the virus is raging in the Indian subcontinent, Eastern Europe and parts of the Caribbean and Africa but the patterns of infection suggest they are not spreading into the wider community when they get here. (Herd immunity?) Black and Asian ethnic groups made up 44.5% of new cases in the last week. It was only 9.5% two months ago. Cases in White and Other groups continue to fall rapidly. (See Table 4) We see this in UK geographic spread. Most parts of the UK continue to improve and are now at extremely low levels. The import of cases from abroad should improve into September as the viral outbreaks in these other parts of the world start to subside, though Asian countries are starting to see significant growth now (Australia, Hong Kong, Indonesia). I don't think we get as much immigration from there, though.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/901803/Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_29_FINAL.pdf

 

I haven't seen anything about these cases being imported. Where has that come from?

 

I think for myself. Papers are slow on the uptake. Main media have been 2-4 weeks behind the reality from the beginning. (e.g. US wave 2 has now peaked.) There's a flow to and from currently highly infected countries and cases are breaking out amongst immigrant workers and asylum seekers here. Is it really that hard to work out the connection? I did say "seems". The recent weeks' national outbreaks have been in immigrant communities and factories employing them. The recent local outbreaks have been in immigrant communities and factories employing them. Wakefield had an outbreak in an asylum seekers' hostel. Maps show no discernible spread into wider local communities.

Related news:

Delhi official figures say less than 1% had it. Actually 24% of over 21k blood tested gave positive results. Delhi officially peaked at over 4000 new cases on June 23rd. Less than 1000 per day now. Cases before then will have fading antibodies that might not test positive. Cases in last two weeks have not developed enough yet to test positive. Studies show many more (asymptomatics) don't even develop antibodies. Probably over 50% had it and rising. Herd immunity is most likely why it's now falling - just like here, New York and Sweden.

Https://www.cnbctv18.com/healthcare/herd-immunity-nearly-a-quarter-of-delhi-residents-may-have-developed-covid-19-antibodies-6400281.htm</font>

 

Ah that's okay. Thought I'd missed something factual that had been reported about the cases being imported.

 

Care to comment on immunity in Delhi? I posted some facts on that.

Do these count as facts?

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/interactive-map-reveals-number-new-18624286
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/map-reveals-towns-villages-new-18624154
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/new-map-shows-towns-areas-18624380

And this data in Table 4 showing ethnic minorities now reporting a vastly disproportionate number of cases. So, are some UK minorities having a second wave just amongst themselves for some strange reason or are those coming in or back from countries in Eastern Europe and Western Asia where it is now raging carrying it with them? Which makes more sense if asylum seekers and refugees are having outbreaks while the nearby resident communities do not seem to be getting flare ups?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/901803/Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_29_FINAL.pdf

 

I have no idea about the cases in Delhi to be honest, I've never looked into it and probably won't. I also don't know who CNBC-TV18 are....is that a reputable source?

As I posted on the general chat thread the numbers communities with large Asian populations are probably complex encompassing many socioeconomic and behavioral factors including living conditions, type of work common in those communities, language, poverty, Covid guidance compliance, population density, size of households, etc, etc.

I simply hadn't seen anything about them being caused from imported cases. The virus is still flowing around the country so I'm not sure why any outbreak would necessarily need to be assumed to come from outside?

 

Yes. It's a reputable source. It's the Indian website of CNBC in collaboration with TV18/Network 18 which is India's biggest broadcaster. I'm surprised you've not heard of them. Maybe you'd know the global US company better as just NBC.

https://www.nbcuniversal.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/about/
http://www.nw18.com/home

"CNBC is the recognized world leader in business news and provides real-time financial market coverage and business content consumed by more than 355 million people per month across all platforms."

 

Nope. Not really had much contact with Indian news channels to be honest although it doesn't really help with the main point about imported cases anyway.

 

Some good news - a first even: English hospitals reported 15 new deaths of which zero were yesterday. This will likely get topped up to 5+ incoming days but it's still good to see. As a bonus, the new case figure was back under 500.

http://covidtracker.uksouth.cloudapp.azure.com/

 

Only 88 in Yorkshire on Monday. Unfortunately, 35 were in Bradford.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/areas-yorkshire-new-coronavirus-cases-18637089

If I've made no mistake, Bradford's Pillar 1+2 combined since available from 3rd of July is:
38 ,28,14,39,26,22,30,27, 21,29,36,38,33,32,27,27,33,35.

 

We seem to be always around the same figure, so would that mean our R figure is about 1? With so few positive cases you would think they should be able to track who has passed it to who and where.