Viva La Revolution

I don't think footie management is one where you rely on a CV - other wise Rafa Benitez is never getting a job at this level, never mind Valencia and then Liverpool. He even took a year out to go to University!! Such was his initial lack of success. Then Tenerife took a punt on him and the rest is history

Mourinho has a similar 'non spectacular' beginning

And these are two of the most succesful in the game - it at least shows the importance of the person in interview, rather than the record

 

You’re missing the point. They may have struggled with their first Head Coach roles, BUT both had success working under a Head Coach. Bobby Robson once said that Mourinho was one of the best young coaches he’d ever worked with. The skills etc were already there.

Collins has 1yr of experience and no results to prove he’d be a success. Don’t get me wrong- I’m not against promoting from within. Liverpool did it for years from their ‘boot room’, but all promotions were based on delivering further down the pyramid and not just being able to talk the talk.

Look at how Jewell came from under Kammie’s shadow to lead us to the Premier League. But the point being, he had been given experience in coaching the first team and being a number2 first.

We have been linked with u23 managers from other (top) clubs and I wouldn’t have been against them if they had a track record of developing players.

But Collins DOES NOT...!

 

In a nutshell

 

Find the support for this appointment embarrassing.

Literally no obvious positives to take.

 

Until we see how the team perform how can there be. I don’t know about you but I know very little about Michael Collins I have never heard him speak he has a UEFA A coaching badge has long ambition to get into management played under good coaches like Appleton and obviously knows this league very well. It could go either way which of course the same for all appointments

 

Come on Jon, you must have known which posters wouldn’t see any negative in this. They never see negative in anything on here. I’m all for giving the lad a chance but anyone who thinks this appointment has been made for any reason other than no one else would do it is naive at best.

 

What’s the point of dwelling on the negatives what good does it do anybody. I have said several times on the face of it it’s disappointing. But there again it could turn out to be inspired.

 

I see a poorly performing u18 side.

Had we won something, it would make sense to promote him to assistant manager or whatnot.

If the hash tag is 'give him a chance', really the board have done him no favours. Give the lad a chance to develop as coach and manager before he gets this sort of position.

Very unfair on the lad.

 

Fair enough.

But you'd hope for a positive statistic, result, or league table to justify such a high profile promotion.

The stats, results and table however tell a very negative story.

 

You can just see it now. If this all goes tits up, edin will hide away and let poor Michael take the stick from the fans, taking absolutely no responsibility himself.

 

So................. none of the 10 people Edin interviewed matched his high expectations, but Michael Collins' weekend interview made him top choice for the gig ?

 

And then Abbott will conveniently take over as caretaker..........

 

Good riddance to you.
We wanted a young hungry head coach. We signed a young hungry head coach.

What were you expecting??
It was never going to be some big established name because they would have wanted control.

How about giving Collins some respect and see what he can do first. EDIN has made 4 good signings so far. He has the experience of Abbot with him. Why is it an assumed failure before hes even began?

McCall had a pretty crappy managerial career before he took over and hes treated as the messiah.

 

Since you're slating people for thinking this is a shocking appointment before we've seen what collins can do, similarly how can you judge that we've made 4 good signings before we've seen them play?

 

It can be that simple

I'd be with you, if everyone of the others had landed a better job or even just a job - they haven't. Maybe they're not as good as some think that they are. Oh! And I can understand Higginbottom not wanting to take any job after his experience

I don't think any of them would have been particularly brilliant under the new regime, where clearly Abbot's voice is just as important at the coaches. This is something that British coaches simply can't get used to, but is commonplace on the continent and becoming more prevalent over here

I'd actually rather have an unknown actually grateful to have the job. We saw what happens when you have a manager like Simon 'be greatful you've got me' Grayson appears on the scene

The club is more important. And some of us think that the owners haven't been that bad in their two years, to give up on them just yet

Like I and others have often said - I'm keen to see what they can deliver this year and if it's rubbish, I'll also start giving them more of a kicking

I'm no Edin fan, but to quote Bernie Ecclestone "it's their train set"

 

So you've maintained happiness over an inexperienced coach as opposed to a known quantity?

If I get time, I might look back at your posts and see how true that statement is,

 

I'm indifferent. In fairness I've said this for weeks. I've no idea if it will work. I am no more convinced we would have been better with say a Warburton or Fergusson. None of the names thrilled me. If we could have got McCarthy or someone like that, then of course - but that would never happen under the owners plans

So we have to concede that it's probably best to let the owners work it the way they want. In fairness to them, they're clearly convinced that their plan is one that will bear fruit. It might not be to our liking - I know a Barnsley fan, who feels exactly the same thing as they are even worse and use the fifa-pro system

All I say, is that we've had a lot of managers as have other clubs, who haven't improved ours or any others - so let's give this a go

I don't see why everyone thinks this is definitely wrong. We have no idea, what he will be like in the dressing room on the training pitch etc. Clearly Grayson wasn't that great as a motivator - wasn't Gibson complaining about his man-management skills. If you get the correct blend of players, do you need a manager or someone to encourage?

I'm genuinely fascinated as to how it will go

 

I'm guessing that you were not appointed to your current position directly following a lacklustre 6 month secondment to the post room.

The "know all attitude" you mention is exemplified by our own joint chairman perfectly, he won't be tolerating anyone else with that attitude.

I don't know anything about MC, he may be a great bloke and even a fantastically talented coach. Would you call Collins, with Edin guiding him, the dream team?

 

Whatever we all think about the appointment, what's done is done and no amount of ruminating is going to change that. Edin is clearly not going to shift his view about how things should be done for the foreseeable future and if that is the case, it makes sense to have a coaching team that are willing to work with his model and seemingly believe in it. I might feel disappointed and underwhelmed today but that does not mean I am going to write Collins and Co off before they've had a chance to show what they can do. You never know, they might just surprise us all.

 

He may well try but we all know that this is his model and that MC is his puppet. He can take the glory when it succeeds but I will be directing my "stick" at Rahic if it goes badly