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Viva La Revolution

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Faithful Bantam, Jun 18, 2018.

  1. Campbell's soup

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    If they play with the same lack of passion and commitment they showed in the second half of last season then they can feck off along with the owners and the worlds wankiest coaching set up. This really is a piss take.
     
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  2. BoingBoing

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    Are we allowed to get our pitchforks out yet or is it still too early for the uber positive amongst us?

    As I said in another thread, we all laughed at Leeds under Cellino, when he appointed Hockaday. But this tw@t (Rahic) is making Massimo look like Stephen frigging Hawking...!
     
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  3. Silverbantam

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    I think McGowan could be the new Gary Jones.
     
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  4. Ricc

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    no no. the goal posts will move again now. now we'll have to "wait and see how he does"
     
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  5. RonnieBrown

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    OK - I walked away from my Lap top for an hour or so. And the dust has now settled - I think !!

    Firstly - I was greeted with a wry smile from my Liverpool supporting SPA Manageress, earlier. All I could muster was a poor shrug of the shoulders.

    Secondly - BCAFC is our (the Fans) Club, not Edins !
    And with that, the Club will continue to have my unwavering support, including the Coaching staff.

    Thirdly - The first time City get a thumping on Home soil, I would hope that any chants of "You don't know what you're doing !!" are aimed at Edin, and not the Coaching team.

    Finally - The decision has been made, Recruitment is ongoing, and we haven't lost a game - yet ! ;) So let's all try and pull together and support our Club from the off, rather than throw the towel in prematurely. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Stoneski

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    Me, my dad, Edin, to name but three entirely unsuitable people to 'manage' a football team (though my dad did manage the Lord Clyde team in the 80s) . Collins has been a footballer and is a qualified coach. He seems to be happy to work in Rahic's set up and bring on young blood. I presume you will not be cheering on the massively inexperienced Southgate tonight and wishing Rooney, Hart, and Wilshire were in the squad. New ideas and young people aren't always bad.
     
  7. Klepton

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    It would be better to use Southgate as an example after the world cup. He hasn't done anything yet. He's dropped some dead wood from the squad which I commend him for but I still believe Southgate lacks the quality to manage England. I'm going to give Collins a chance but if everything goes wrong the blame will be at edin. Of course Collins is happy to work with edin. He's never had a job anywhere near league 1 level. Just because you've been a footballer doesn't mean you would be a good coach. I think we should give Collins a chance but you can't blame fans for worrying about the direction we are going having just appointed a guy that a lot of people have never heard of. Our situation seems to similar to dave hockady at leeds. (That is not a good thing)
     
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  8. BoingBoing

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    The fact that he said he wanted a Head Coach that can develop kids ready for 1st team football, you’d expect him to have had some experience if doing this? This guy hasn’t.

    The fact that he said we’d had lots of good applicants and had reduced this down to 2, then further delays were made, indicating it wasn’t originally someone in house.

    Sorry, but Rahic is a liar, has learned feck all, clearly is egotistical (and don’t dare ask for proof) and is clearly trying to do this on the cheap.

    FFS, this fella hasn’t even got experience of working UNDER a Head Coach or Manager and has been fast-tracked to the job.
    At least Hockaday had a CV. What the hell did Collins have on his CV???

    Frigging livid
     
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  9. BoingBoing

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    But we (Edin) has promoted some of the Dev Squad players into that losing team, so all good
     
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  10. BoingBoing

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    Bingo- right on queue, the thoroughly nice chaps have spoken
     
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  11. Faithful Bantam

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    The 'lessons have been learned' thing. The mistake many are making is that it was taken, by many, in the context of what WE saw as the lessons to be learned. Better players, quality over quantity, more leadership in the team, less interference from Rahic etc.

    But they were talking about the lessons They've learned in the context of their intent. Basically, get rid of dissenters, more young players who're less likely to be outspoken and for Rahic to manage by proxy. They've now assumed total control.
     
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  12. Ricc

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    sometimes I wonder how Greg Abbott can look himself in the mirror in a morning.
    why is he going along with this clusterfuck?

    Stuart McCall will have afforded himself a wry grin this morning, I am sure.
     
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    I've yet to see a set of fans successfully be 'toxic' to club owners and for it not to affect the players and just importatnyl other staff members

    To think that you can somehow only attack the owners is naive

    To think that it will have any affect is even more naive

    "Blindly supporting" is what this fan (along with every other fan of all the other clubs) has been doing for the past 40 years and there's been a lot of worse situations than this
     
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    I don't believe you are superficial enough to be 'bought' by a name. So I don't know why you question their sincerity, i.e. maybe they think he's the best person out of all that they've interviewed

    Several clubs have taken on managers new to that league. It doesn't mean they are all destined to fail
     
  15. Faithful Bantam

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    Of course, any supporters protests would be unpleasant for many at the club, including the fan base itself. But sometimes it's a neccesary course of action.
     
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  16. banbrotam

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    Of course he's trying to do this on the cheap. So what? Why do you want managers to be expensive?

    Clearly he's egotistical. So what? What owner isn't?

    We know nothing of the interview process. Did any of the names touted fill you with joy (apart from perhaps Grayson)? If so, I don't know why - they'd all got severely poor records at some time. Is there some guarantee that they will suddenly find it again?

    Do we basically exclude anyone without 'suitable experience'?(whatever that means). Because, if we do - then there's a lot of managers who simply would never had got a start

    Frankly I'm fascinated, with this appointment as it's so left field
     
  17. BoingBoing

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    Ricc, McCall is a fan like the rest of us. I see no reason to have a wry grin when he sees what Kim Jong Un and The Invisible Man are doing to our club
     
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    You don’t own a business and employ cheap managers to run it. You do understand this, right? If you want the best, you pay for the best. If you want a cheap option, you tend to get a poorer service.

    Rahic said he wanted experts in to make expert decisions in all aspects, i.e Paula etc. However, he then employs a fella with zero experience.

    Yes, I must admit I’d rather someone with a track record of some success and some failings. Ferguson interested me. Hopkin interested me. McCann interested me.

    And if Rack & Ruin wanted to go down a different path, I’d support this if we had appointed a coach that had experience of leading at youth (u23) level. One year of coaching us and he’s suddenly good enough to become HC?

    Why you’re “intrigued” confuses me. I despair if you don’t have concerns about the direction we are going in....!
     
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    I do understand about running a business as I've been responsible for successfully running £3m turnover per annum at my company

    One thing I do know is that there is little relation to what you pay someone to how good they will be. It depends entirely on whether they can use their skills that got them to where they were, at your company - plus their attitude. Too many have a 'know-all' attitude.

    The best staff I've had were the ones perhaps surprisingly given a chance, because they had something about them useful to that business and greatly appreciated it, which made them even more determined to be successful - plus they would let you guide them where needed, because of the chance they'd been given
     
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    In what other field does an interviewee got awarded the job based on them “talking the talk”. Surely you have to have examples to match the interview questions being asked?

    For example, “we are looking for a Head Coach that can develop our younger players and improve them sufficiently to be challenging for a 1st team place. What experience/examples can you give of delivering this in your previous employment?”

    “Er, sorry Edin, can you ask me something else, as I can’t give an example for that one”....!
     
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