Video of NKP incident - stomped and punched

That looks bad. Defo a red card looking at that

 

How officials missed that is untrue..

 

Put yourself in the official shoes. The ball has just been played upfield, the lino is running to the half way line and the ref legitimately has his back to it 60 yards away. Why the hell would they spot it? The constant bashing of officials is ridiculous. It does need retrospective treatment though.

 

The lino wouldn’t have been running to the half way line - his job is to stay with the last defender.
However, if he didn’t see anything, it shouldn’t have been a booking either!

 

I thought there was a fourth official at the game or is he exempt from making contact with the official especially when the crowd react and players are going towards the incident.

 

Linesman definately saw it as they gave a yellow card, which also means their can be no retrospective punishment against the player. Another disgusting decision from the officials.

 

The linesman looked like he saw the tail end of it ie. the player shoving NKP to the ground. Seriously I think its so easy to knock the officials who only got one quick view of the situation and a split second to make a decision. I have never seen a 4th official make an onfield decision in any match. As for the linos positioning he has to have an eye on the play. I appreciate that when the defending team win back possession it makes sense to be in line with the last man in your half but when its cleared upfield the linesman will always run back towards half way.

 

The 4th official is there to bring attention to the referee of anything that he has missed and isn't shoving someone to the floor a red card offence .

 

No it isn't. You can point to any rule you want but you wont find a single example of a player pushing another and getting a red card. The 4th official issue is another argument. It would be nice to think that a 4th official would do that but it literally never happens. There are a million and one things that a 4th official would be looking at / dealing with. Why would he be watching NKP?

 

looks like scannell got sent off for shoving a player to ground against Sunderland this season.

 

Bollocks! Got me there!

If I could back track slightly I'd say there is a big difference between the two 'shoves' mainly the fact that it was Honeyman's head rather than body.

 

Agree with this. IF the fourth official saw something then yes he can get involved and make decisions, but the chances of him seeing it are slim for the reasons you’ve said.
Back to the lino, he shouldn’t be running to the halfway line, but you would also expect him to be following the ball (ie not having a perfect view of the incident).
All the major decisions went against us on the day, the red and penalty could go either way. The goal I’m less sympathetic - the linesman on that side really should be seeing that.
End of the day, decisions and luck were against us. Pulling the officials up for every little thing isn’t going to get us anywhere.

 

To me it's just strange that the ref was a homer, where at VP it always (last 2 excepted) seems that the visitors get all the calls.....

 

They didn't. The assistant saw it. He saw the Bradford player holding down our main CB while Bradford were counter-attacking. Flanagan has to try and get loose. I can completely understand why you all think it should be a red and I think it should have been too. The fact he's only gave a yellow means that it's for this reason, so I don't understand why he's not gave the Bradford player a yellow too as he's clearly been told by his linesman both players were at fault.

To sum: It should have been a red, but the fact he's only gave a yellow means he should have booked both players.

Nobody was grabbing onto Scannell and play was already stopped when Scannell did this iirc.

 

But how many times have you seen an opposition player pushed in chest and go down holding there face to make it look worse than it was but the original offence is a shove to the body.

 

NKP should have let go of the Sunderland player. Hangng on to his leg like that was stupid.

 

Ive been trying to find a video as I think it was same sort of incident as what went on at yours.

 

If it how you say both players were liable the correct decision would have been a sending off for your player and a yellow for ours. As you say, why only book one player when both were involved? I think it was another bottling decision, or they didn’t see the whole incident, in which case they have to let it go.

 

Thats a good call Steve, forogt about that. We had no complaints about Scannell getting sent off and this incident looks just as bad. It looked a red at the time. Hard to apportion blame for this and the ‘goal’ to the ref as he won’t have seen either. Linesmen on the other hand....