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I'm with you. Maybe I'm just becoming a miserable old fart, but I'm convinced Western Society is failing. I'm serious about leaving the UK in 2 years - if we can avoid WW3 for that long! By that point, my youngest will have finished school and I'll have the financial means to do so, and likely semi-retire. A couple of attractive options I'm exploring, which I think will offer a much better way of life and prospects for my young-adult children and any offspring they produce!

 

What you knew as Western society will have changed beyond all recognition in a generation or two. But if you go back through history landscapes have changed over the centuries. If I could leave this country I would, I don't really have the financial means. But my wife does have the option of a German passport, it's the first time ive ever discussed anything like this with anyone and the wife would quite happily up sticks and move to Europe.
I went to Poland for a few weeks at Christmas and I didn't miss this country at all. I was brought up to believe it was this bastion of fairness, the stiff upper lip when in truth it's no different to anywhere else. All I see is a country a bit like Bradford in a way, a place that had it's day a long time ago.

 

Anyway. Seems like our PM not only looks ridiculous wearing trainers with suit pants, but he is now accused of single handedly destroying the street cred of Adidas Sambas

 

I don't disagree. But you can't give the Labour Party the credit for the global boom years and then absolve them of blame for the bust. They are two sides of the same coin.

Equally the "10 years of Tory cuts" are basically "3 years of cutting too far". And I would agree.

Equally you can't have a go about the debts the "Torys have run up" when all through lockdown you wanted more, more and more.

But nothing in this Country doesn't work because of that. Nothing in this Country doesn't work because its underfunded.

We pay more to the government than we've ever done and every meaningful aspect of the state spends more money than its ever done. Nothing in this country works because its inefficient and people resist every single bit of change even when it's needed. That goes from planning to immigration to infrastructure.

That's what Labour need to change and I'm just dying to hear something positive from them about it. The point of politics isn't to keep things up your sleeve and then spring them on the electorate once you've got in. You might like it because they're 'your' side but in general that's horrendous politics and bad for the trust of the public. We need to know what we're voting for and, to me, it needs to address those key aspects.

 

The strain it puts on local services is putting stress on an already broken infrastructure. Spare me the bullshit about fleeing war torn countries and all this asylum bollocks, I've lived far too long to fall for that shite. Never thought I'd see myself saying this of a Conservative government but 14 years of constant cutbacks and non existent leadership in what I'd class as the Tory way has left this country broken, mass migration, law and order falling apart, the mess that is Brexit. Things that I would have guaranteed the Blue side of Westminster would have dealt with far better than Labour.

 

Sounds like you don't like democracy and happy to go along with the racist rhetoric like Britain First who got beaten by Count Binface. Donald Trupp and Nigel Farage would be proud of you

 

The Green Party seems to have changed its focus a little bit in recent times.

I don't see any way of reversing this particular trend in predominantly Muslim areas and I'm not so sure how much difference it will make on a national level. It's worrying to me that even council elections are becoming more involved with international problems rather than potholes and planning issues. What do people like this actually offer the people in their areas?

 

See, you've just made the mistake a lot of people make. Not everyone who sees what's happening is fat right, it's a lazy media led stereotype designed to shut down anyone with a different opinion. Not everyone with different opinions drapes themselves in a union flag or drinks Carling.

 

I've seen a number of people asking questions of Tory MPs who have been on the media.

"People can see we have a plan and we are sticking to the plan and delivering on the people's priorities"

I mean how tone deaf can you actually be? Time and again the interviewer were saying to them, so basically the polls suggest the electorate don't agree with you and you are effectively saying to us we carry on as before.

It's a bold move.

 

Whichever part is in power next, they need to address this issue.

Billions and billions of tax-payers money flowing to rentier capitalism. Not rewarding entrepreneurship, not rewarding ingenuity.

The 28 billion green investment that upset so many people is a drop in the ocean compared to the money flowing out of the country, whilst essential services are falling apart.

A long-term view needs to be taken, that allows the private sector to provide services where it is sensible to do so, but to remove the ability for huge profits to be made.

 

If essential utilities like say, water, were knocking out the profits they do but with the knowledge that profit was going back in to future proof the infrastructure for future generations then I'd have no problem with that. The fact they are now run to serve the private institutions shareholders tells you all you need to know about modern day Britain. It's an essential part of life FFS.
I did a job a couple of years ago, the guy working the canteen was from Algeria. Was telling me about back home where.tue wages were poor but things like electric and water cost very little and not equal on a scale of economics to this country.
We really are robbed blind in this country to keep the elite in the lap of luxury they are accustomed to.

 

Starmer and Labour are finished Bronco , Momentum the Unions and the remenents of Corbynism as seen to that .

 

What the Media and some Labour people fail to recognise is that the public factor in that politicians cheat and feather their own nest now and again, It is no major surprise

 

The greatest ever campaign video has paid off as Tiger Patel has won a seat from Labour in Blackburn, even when he stood on top of a climbing frame with suck *@?$ written on it.

 

And Whoever helped decide that labour would be the party of Pro EU and second referendum at the last GE,it wasn’t just Corbyn it was Starmer in the shadow cabinet who pushed for it.

 

Labour’s problem is they have a wide spectrum of members all of who believe they are right. One side of the party gets in power and the other wing refuse to support them and complain publicly about the policies. They then work against the leader until they quit and are then replaced by someone from the other wing. The history then repeats it self. Each time it flips the voters at either end go elsewhere.

 

Your right but it is their own fault for in effect allowing a party within a party to operate from within its ranks

 

Having just watched PMQ's I wish someone could stand up to the thickest leader of the opposition since the last one that fans are NOT booing the players whether they be black, white or yellow, they are booing the gesture, sickening to see the government threatening our freedom to boo at whatever...

 

That PMQs was one of the worst performances from Starmer that I've seen. He is playing university politics and it's probably getting him pats on the back behind the scenes but it's shocking.

What happened to him being forensic rather than quoting headlines and spokespeople?