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Time To Be Shrewd

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by Clity, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Clity

    Clity Fringe Player

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    Hi everyone I have just joined and used to be a member of C&B. I read this everyday but havent joined because I dont want to get embroiled in the debate. However i think maybe this is a pivotal moment in our history and wanted to add my take. Im not a WUM, just a fan.

    Rahic Opinion

    I think Rahic is to blame for all this. I think he obviously knew he would have a low budget and his business plan just didnt prove to be profitable. He sticks his ore in way too much and I wouldnt be bothered if he went.

    The Reality

    That being said, without a potential investor we cannot just get rid of him. The fanbase has requirements from an owner, im sure most dont care if hes German or Italian as long as the club is strong. We aren't strong, its clear, but without a new investor we are stuck. If we alienate Rahic, if we dont think about how his personality reacts to conflict then we could end up being the arbiters of our own demise.

    All he has to do is to lose interest, not push Rupp for more cash and with rental costs on the stadium could see us either leaving VP or going into administration. We are already at the foot of the league a bigger bash to his ego could be devastating. Unless someone comes along who can pay back his investments such as the pitch etc. then he isn't going to let that go easy. We could become utterly neglected and face oblivion

    Time to be Shrewd

    I dont want to tell anyone not to protest in any way. There's already a fund for this on justgiving. If it goes ahead those who are organising it have a massive opportunity. Taking a strategic approach the fanbase could have an active role in improving the management of the club.

    Instead of 'Rahic out!' what about 'we want change', its ambiguous, it means many things. Most of all its not antagonistic. What do we really want? i think most of us want the club run in a traditional way and we want Rahic to step back. If he does this, brings in a Baldwin or Mason to take the helm then im guessing we would be happy.

    Lets push for something within our grasp, that doesn't alienate the only owners we have. Not because we love Rahic but because we need to protect our club against his ego. Emotions say 'get him out' but a shrewd person would say 'change your ways'. Lets have more protests that follow a strategy that instigates positive change in the face of no other would be investors.

    'Rahic Out!' achieves nothing but venting our anger. It could result in adverse effects. Blowback so to speak.

    'We want change' sends a message but makes our end goal more achievable. We can follow up with more protests, once again aimed at installing a proper CEO. It doesnt even have to be 'we want change' but something with a similar impact.

    Let Edin take the glory of being chairman and lets get a proper man like Baldwin in to save our backsides.

    If there are no alternative investors. This should be our goal.
     
  2. Idlebantam

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    I take it you vote Liberal?
     
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  3. Offside

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    :brig::brig::brig::brig:
     
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  4. CT Bantam

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    A considered and reasonable post and under anything like normal circumstances I would probably agree.

    I believe that you have misjudged Rahic. My view of him is that he will have no truck with disenters or even those who might suggest an alternative path to his own.

    It's his way or not at all IMO.

    For us to have any future, Rahic must go.
     
  5. NorthernMonkey

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    So Rahic is to blame for for the mistakes but we can't officially blame Rahic for the mistakes incase the mistakes upset his fragile mindset and he uses the mistakes to walk away.

    Instead we don't mention the previous mistakes and leave him to make more mistakes as long as he brings in someone else to blame those mistakes on.

    Am I close?
     
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  6. Ricc

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    choosing to not protest because there isn't a "potential investor' is lunacy.

    we won't know who is willing to take the club on if we don't force the current owner to sell up and feck off.

    and there IS potential new owners on the horizon, a consortium approached last season and I know there are still interested parties now - but until we can make life as uncomfortable as possible for Edin Rahic, he won't go any where. he and his wife are both taking salaries from the club and will continue to do so. he isn't bothered as long as they get paid.
     
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  7. Meltham Massive

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    I agree with the OPs comments, we are all passionate supporters of The club, however in the eyes of the law we are but customers of a private limited company. This means that our owners could, if they so chose to do so leave the club to wither and eventually die. Edin is aware he is unpopular with the fans, flying a plane above a ground he probably won’t even be in (because he doesn’t want to turn up, because he knows he’s not popular) isn’t going to give him some kind of epiphany. If we push too hard they could just asset strip and leave us without a club of any sort. If you think I’m being melodramatic our biggest asset is our league membership, ask Wimbledon fans the risk of a shitty owner with 100% ownership. The thought of a Surrey bantams F.C. deeply concerns me.
     
  8. net blaster

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    NO we don't want him to step back, we want him GONE. The man will never change,he has no feelings for the club, fans,etc. He came here to make a killing ashe got rid of anyone on reasonable wages, and brought in the cheap dross that no others wanted. The players don't want to play for him, staff can't work with him.He's a belligerent bellend ,and imo will never change.HE said he knows football from top to BOTTOM, well he certainly wasn't lying there. EDIN OUT.
     
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  9. Edinmiarse

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    THIS ^ ^ ^
    He's more than aware of how the fans feel. He was aware of it in the summer. Bizarrely he then went and appointed a coach where pretty much 100% of fans said: WHO? and WTF???
     
  10. Clity

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    haha NO!
     
  11. Clity

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    You can officially blame who you want. You can get angry, you can chuck him out. Im not telling you what to do.

    Doesnt mean its the clever option.
     
  12. Onside

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    I think you will find self interest comes before throwing a tantrum because the fans don’t like him. Rupp for one will want sell while it is a sellable asset. You say they might asset strip, how do you know they haven’t already?
     
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  13. Clity

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    Yeah but you are offering nothing, you are just repeating what we already know. You cant replace him with nobody can you?

    Get wise is what I will say.
     
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  14. Clity

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    All im offering is an opinion on how there is an opportunity to make a positive change. This calling for his head is just emotion with no substance, no plan, no basic reality. Until we have someone who can invest then calling for them to leave is somewhat pointless. Remember im not saying I want him here I just care more about the long term survival than who is at the helm.

    Mr blobby could be owner as long as we scored some goals FFS, wouldnt bother me.
     
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    I very much doubt Dave Baldwin would come back, as big a Bradford City fan as he is, he openly said the reason for him leaving was a new addition to his family and the offer at Burnley was too good to turn down this time.
     
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  16. Ricc

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    this club will die if we leave Rahic in charge.

    unless you want to follow AFC Bantams in games against the likes of Whitby - in the non league pyramid we can't not protest!
     
  17. net blaster

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    OK EDIN whatever you say.
     
  18. Clity

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    Sigh, I said go ahead and protest.

    People pay me a lot to create business strategies for them. The current protest is not going to help us. We should be more strategic. Protest but have some achievable goals.
     
  19. Clity

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    Isnt that what your mum said?
     
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  20. RonnieBrown

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    You ever thought that very scenario is very real should Rahic remain ?
    To enter League 2, and struggle in there, immediately dropping to the National League WILL kill the Club. :(
     
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