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The Turnaround: In Numbers

Discussion in 'City Talk' started by JonButterfield, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. Aaron Baker

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    And there were people that sulked and blocked me because I didn't think McCall was a good manager ;):joy:

    The turnaround is amazing. The guys in charge, including Sparks and Turnbull deserve massive credit.
     
  2. Biker

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    Playoffs is still a possibility with this upturn in form, this is a poor league and confidence is sky high. Half a season left, there would be a fair few 6 pointers for sure, we've done it before coming from nowhere to sneak in at the death.
     
  3. vin weasel

    vin weasel Squad Player
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    As much as i would love to be looking up the table, we are very much closer to the bottom than the top so focus and being hard to beat must be the way for now.
    A few more wins starting at the weekend then we can MAYBE believe something is possible.
    Grimsby v Stevenage at the bottom with Carlisle v Exeter in the top 10 coupled with our game Saturday are both contributors to the way we look at the table after Barrow.
     
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  4. Thelittlegerman

    Thelittlegerman Fringe Player

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    So we've got 23 games left to play.
    28 points on the board.

    The lowest points total that achieved playoffs was Lincoln in 05/06 with 66 points. So we'd need a further 38 points (1.65 a game). Our current form over 7 games is 2.1 points a game.

    The highest points total that achieved playoffs was Accrington Stanley in 15/16 on 85 points. So we'd need a further 57 points (2.47... Call it 2.5 a game)

    In 12/13 WE were promoted through the playoffs on a total of 69 points. So we'd need a further 41 points (1.8 a game)

    I think the post above has actually made a mistake. The average for 6th place is 71.1 points (So we'd need 43 points or 1.9 a game for our remaining 23 games).

    So whilst it's difficult, if we maintain current form it's doable. I need to work out what the average is for 7th place and then I'll have a better idea of where we stand.

    (https://www.thestatszone.com/archive/how-many-points-are-needed-for-promotion-in-league-two-efl-sky-bet-play-offs-10652)
     
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  5. Johnny Yen

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    They're both impressing with the manor of how the team is playing, set up, and also how they come across when they speak both pre- and post match.
    The term interim is the title of their role, the club and fans know this means unless there's a complete slump in results and we're hurtling back towards the trap-door, the job is theirs until the season's end.
    Their mandate is keep us up, anything extra is a much welcome bonus.
    From the position we were when the duo took the reins, a lower/mid-table finish would earn any interim manager a two-year deal.
    A top ten finish, for a side that was hurtling to the foot of the table and we need to be giving the M&C duo a couple of years deal just before season's end, there's other very poor northern clubs out there, crying out for cheap leaders that can produce immediate improvement in results.

    It will be interesting to see how the duo and team respond to a blip of a couple of defeats ( not that I want any defeat !)
    However, what I've seen and heard I've no concerns that they couldn't steer us through that, after all, they took us out of several straight defeats with a squad with less strength that the one they're assembling.

    They're endearing to listen to in their monotone local Yorkshire accents, they think closely at what they want, the players are totally on board with what they want, this shines through in players post match interviews.

    We had great times with Parky, some results that's never likely to be repeated.

    However, what's emerging here in these very very early days, is a spirit I've not seen since Kammy/Jewell and Jewell/Hutch

    Football is as fickle as the British weather, and fortunes can change in a breath, I take nothing ever for granted.
    But, the last lucky chairman we had was Mr Richmond ( believe me, that fella for 6years had the midas touch)
    Maybe, Mr Sparks ( ok he's CEO), has just lit the spark this club has needed for a long time.

    We'll see
     
  6. Idlebantam

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    Top post and eloquently put
     
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  7. vin weasel

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    What is also a big factor especially this season is the fact that from 3rd to 17th the gap is only 12 points. Its a wide open league this season.
     
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  8. Rcbantam

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    Straight to the point. McCall and Black are just crap.
     
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  9. Wolfysmith

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    Whilst last night's result was fantastic I think we need to just focus on the next game.
    As other posters have pointed out - we're closer to the bottom than the top. So, talk of play offs is still a way off.
    If we can haul ourselves into mid table by the end of February then maybe, just maybe, we'll have the chance to get there with a good run.
    I remember back to February 96 and thinking we'd be looking at 3rd tier football the following season. But we went on one of the most unexpected winning streaks to bag a play-off place....
     
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  10. Damo

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    Number of shots on goal will start to drastically rise with Rowe in the side
     
  11. bantamdave41

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    Well, if any of you barmy kids think it's possible...

    11/4 top half finish (William Hill)
    10/1 to reach the play offs (bet Victor)
    33/1 to win the play offs (William Hill).

    Remember, gamble responsibly. 18s+ only.
     
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  12. NorthernMonkey

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    Screenshot_20210127-091745_Sky Bet.jpg

    Already on it with a "top half" saver (hopefully!).
     
  13. Bantamspaul

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    I seem to remember in 2012/13 we finished 7th with 69pts and won promotion. History could repeat itself but it is a big ask
     
  14. Parader

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    While it's nice that we can be optimistic again I think some people are getting a little carried away! After Saturday we have a tough run of games in February and I expect things to maybe level off a bit results wise at that point.

    Still, there's no reason to suggest that we can't finish positively and end up in upper mid-table, whereas I was convinced we would end up in the bottom two had McCall not been removed.
     
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  15. donhutchinsaffro

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    I want us to build really well and have a go next year...anything this season is a total bonus...
     
  16. Bigrod

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    Balanced and sensible view, which echoes my position on this season.:thumbup:
     
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  17. Asafa

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    Look at the side by side comparison of the league table since T&S have taken over:

    upload_2021-1-27_12-19-8.png v upload_2021-1-27_12-22-7.png

    What's most incredible is the gap to the top of the table.
    In 7 games we have gone from 23 points & 1 game in hand off to 14 points & 2 games in hand.

    The Mansfield turnaround is slightly better than ours too which is equally incredible.
     

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  18. Dratsab taf

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    Next slide please
     
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  19. Edinmiarse

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    Of some interest (or not!) is that 5 out of 7 of the duo's games have been played away.
     
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  20. vin weasel

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    Based on these graphics and the amount of games coming up, by the end of February, should we keep up our form, we could be just outside the play offs.
     
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