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Most liked posts in thread: The Turnaround: In Numbers

  1. Johnny Yen

    Johnny Yen Squad Player
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    They're both impressing with the manor of how the team is playing, set up, and also how they come across when they speak both pre- and post match.
    The term interim is the title of their role, the club and fans know this means unless there's a complete slump in results and we're hurtling back towards the trap-door, the job is theirs until the season's end.
    Their mandate is keep us up, anything extra is a much welcome bonus.
    From the position we were when the duo took the reins, a lower/mid-table finish would earn any interim manager a two-year deal.
    A top ten finish, for a side that was hurtling to the foot of the table and we need to be giving the M&C duo a couple of years deal just before season's end, there's other very poor northern clubs out there, crying out for cheap leaders that can produce immediate improvement in results.

    It will be interesting to see how the duo and team respond to a blip of a couple of defeats ( not that I want any defeat !)
    However, what I've seen and heard I've no concerns that they couldn't steer us through that, after all, they took us out of several straight defeats with a squad with less strength that the one they're assembling.

    They're endearing to listen to in their monotone local Yorkshire accents, they think closely at what they want, the players are totally on board with what they want, this shines through in players post match interviews.

    We had great times with Parky, some results that's never likely to be repeated.

    However, what's emerging here in these very very early days, is a spirit I've not seen since Kammy/Jewell and Jewell/Hutch

    Football is as fickle as the British weather, and fortunes can change in a breath, I take nothing ever for granted.
    But, the last lucky chairman we had was Mr Richmond ( believe me, that fella for 6years had the midas touch)
    Maybe, Mr Sparks ( ok he's CEO), has just lit the spark this club has needed for a long time.

    We'll see
     
  2. Dubois

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    But maybe this isn't a normal year. An awful lot of teams are very close together and we've got half the season still to play. Fixture congestion will play a big part too, as will luck with injuries and suspensions. If we can keep up this form we could well be within touching distance of the playoffs in a month or so. Many a team has come from nowhere in the past so why not us?
     
  3. XCIV_Bantam

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    saw this as a good time to show some graphs Ive been making over the past couple of years. The chart on the left is inspired by @River_City_Bantam@River_City_Bantam graphs. Shows where we are currently. The other graph shows our current progress with other seasons.
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  4. Bradford End

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    For me, it’s when the inevitable loss comes and how we react to it that will define our season.

    Long way to go, yet.
     
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  5. Park bantam

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    After Barrow we have some really tough fixtures away at Exeter improving Scunthorpe and Salford get a good points all out of those fixtures and it could be interesting. But I am just happy we have put a good distance between us and relegation
     
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  6. Idlebantam

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    It's a remarkable turn around. As Trueman and Sellars took the reins, many fans were worried about the very really prospect of us losing our football league status as we plunged into the bottom 2.

    Whilst I think talk of the playoffs now is a bit premature, surely, the pair now deserve to be rewarded with an offer of permanent roles? What more can they do to impress.
     
  7. Bantam@{Lancs}

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    I'd say if we can get 7+ points from the next 3 games then it's on, otherwise we leave ourselves too much to catch up, it's amazing where even talking about this though tbf.
     
  8. Aaron Baker

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    And there were people that sulked and blocked me because I didn't think McCall was a good manager ;):joy:

    The turnaround is amazing. The guys in charge, including Sparks and Turnbull deserve massive credit.
     
  9. Biker

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    Playoffs is still a possibility with this upturn in form, this is a poor league and confidence is sky high. Half a season left, there would be a fair few 6 pointers for sure, we've done it before coming from nowhere to sneak in at the death.
     
  10. Thelittlegerman

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    So we've got 23 games left to play.
    28 points on the board.

    The lowest points total that achieved playoffs was Lincoln in 05/06 with 66 points. So we'd need a further 38 points (1.65 a game). Our current form over 7 games is 2.1 points a game.

    The highest points total that achieved playoffs was Accrington Stanley in 15/16 on 85 points. So we'd need a further 57 points (2.47... Call it 2.5 a game)

    In 12/13 WE were promoted through the playoffs on a total of 69 points. So we'd need a further 41 points (1.8 a game)

    I think the post above has actually made a mistake. The average for 6th place is 71.1 points (So we'd need 43 points or 1.9 a game for our remaining 23 games).

    So whilst it's difficult, if we maintain current form it's doable. I need to work out what the average is for 7th place and then I'll have a better idea of where we stand.

    (https://www.thestatszone.com/archive/how-many-points-are-needed-for-promotion-in-league-two-efl-sky-bet-play-offs-10652)
     
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  11. NorthernMonkey

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    Screenshot_20210127-091745_Sky Bet.jpg

    Already on it with a "top half" saver (hopefully!).
     
  12. donhutchinsaffro

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    I want us to build really well and have a go next year...anything this season is a total bonus...
     
  13. Dubai bantam

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    Jesus this league is dreadful. I don’t rate anybody in this league and this season has been a massive missed opportunity.
     
  14. Dratsab taf

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    Next slide please
     
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  15. River_City_Bantam

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    One thing to note about that webpage is that they started their calculations with the 95/6 season, but the playoffs actually began with the 86/7 season. I'd argue you'd have to start from there to get a complete picture of the points and paces needed. Perhaps they didn't want to factor in the seasons immediately prior, in which there were fewer than 46 matches. Last season is also a problem that way.

    I've done my calculations with all seasons at 46 matches, pro-rating where necessary, and from that come up with 71.1 points as the average for 7th place in the playoff era. It's not precise, but gives a good general idea of what's needed. As I mentioned earlier, I'd love to see us have that sort of second half that leads us to the playoffs, but I personally wouldn't bet chocolate buttons on that, let alone money!

    RCB
     
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  16. Bantam Begins

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    Have you got a form table ? Dare we say we have the legs for a cheeky playoff push or maybe it’s about building momentum for next year and doing the auto route.
     
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  17. XCIV_Bantam

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  18. Bantam Begins

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    I think us and the Mansfield fans would have laughed at this form table in November/December
     
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  19. JonButterfield

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    Well it's definitely not a normal year :joy:

    As for the season, it's telling that sides like Oldham are willing to sell their best players to their rivals while we're in a position to buy from ours.

    Hopefully the massive criticisms of last season's lazy and ambitionless wheelings and dealings have had an effect. It might turn out we've left it too late for a play off push, likely even, but this January window needs to be a sign of things to come. These next few years there are going to be very few clubs at this level unaffected by the last couple of seasons - we should be looking to make a serious impression by swimming past the driftwood of which there will be plenty. We should make it our aim to be in the Championship within five years.

    If Stefan is going to back this club then I don't see any reason why that's unrealistic. So many clubs capitulating or struggling on and/or off the field that it would be criminal for a well-funded, well-run club (even with a healthy balance sheet) to fail to progress.
     
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  20. JonButterfield

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    Carlisle aren't 'teams', they're 'one team', and I wouldn't worry too much about catching them in order to finish 7th.

    They're top by a country mile on points-per-game. They're the only team that has won more than half their games, and they haven't even scraped that stat either. They've got change from that deal.
     
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