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The Ashes

Discussion in 'General Sport' started by Offcomedun, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. Craven Koppite

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    Ah well at least a good first session......

    This squad are deficient in so many areas it is untrue.
     
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  2. bailiff bridge bantam

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    Is this copied and pasted from the football threads?
     
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    Only now need to win the last 3 tests to bring back the Ashes !

    As hard as it will be for the players being brought in there must be changes for the Melbourne test.

    Both openers could be changed but suspect only one will drop out for Crawley. Likely Burns will keep his place.
    Bairstow will replace Pope. Expect Leach and Wood will be brought in for Woakes and Broad.

    Doubt any change will still avoid a 4-0 or 5-0 outcome but the current performances cannot be seen to be left without some form of reaction.

    The wheels seem to have come off with dilussional statements from Silverwood. Also contradictory statements from Broad suggesting differences in opinion with Root on bowling strategy. If Root is not happy with the performance of the bowlers while on the pitch what is the point of his captaincy.

    So, on we go to Boxing Day and just need to see an improvement in batting, bowling and fielding !!!!
     
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    If what you are asking for is not hard enough Cummins and Hazelwood are back in the Aussie squad.
    This may be tempered by Starc having a twinge in his back and not being 100%.
    The Root situation is a bit troubling to be fair.
    Find it really hard to believe that he thinks “the emotion got the better of some players”
    Your job as captain is to realise this and get in players ears if they are not doing as you are asking.
    Great cricketer
    Poor captain.
     
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    It’s 100% fair comment and gives the Aussies an “in” psychologically as well.
    Their team talk now involves the fact that the opposition captain seems unable to influence what the England bowlers do and can’t change things while the match is on .
    In a game where sledging is part and parcel of a days play and you’ve already lost 2 tests by 9 wickets and 275 runs you don’t want to give the opposition a free hit with baffling comments like the ones Root and Silverwood made.
     
  7. Craven Koppite

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    Lost toss, batting and one down with 4 runs on the board. Same old same old......
     
  8. Offcomedun

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    13-2. Depressing.
     
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    Just saying on the countdown thread that no foundations are being built.
    Burns gets stick(rightly so) but Hameed looks so much out of his depth sometimes.
    3 and 4 are virtually openers in this team.
    Poor.
     
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    Root & Malan are carrying this batting line up. Lets hope they can bat for most if not all of today.
     
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    Some absolutely woeful batting yet again.
    Buttler should be dropped just for todays shot alone.
    Senior player at 128-5 on the first day of a test match and he decides to run down the wicket like a T20 game.
    I presume they are going to use him as a secret bowler today as he’s not in the team for his batting or keeping.
    Embarrassing.
     
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    Just to emphasise the weakness in this England batting lineup
    That’s the 13th time in 15 tests that England haven’t got to 200.
    You ain’t winning many games with numbers like that.
     
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    Yes England have been poor with the bat, ball and in the field, but I honestly think Australia have made them look poor. This Australian team has potential and depth. I would say it's the best test team we've produced in the last 15 years (without a specialist spinner imo). I think on the sub continent we would have more issues with Lyon and a lack of a bowler who can mix it up and turn the ball eg.a MacGill or Warne.
     
  14. Offcomedun

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    The main reason you've made us look poor is because we are poor.
     
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    50 ducks in a calendar year. That’s a shocking statistic
     
  16. bailiff bridge bantam

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    The record is 54.
    With another innings in this test match the record is definitely within touching distance.
     
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    Yes England have been poor with the bat, ball and in the field, but I honestly think Australia have made them look poor. This Australian team has potential and depth. I would say it's the best test team we've produced in the last 15 years (without a specialist spinner imo). I think on the sub continent we would have more issues with Lyon and a lack of a bowler who can mix it up and turn the ball eg.a MacGill or Warne.
    I think you are being a bit hard on the Poms. I honestly don't think England are that bad. Just outclassed as usual by the Aussies.
     
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    In an earlier post it was mentioned that only 2-3 England players would probably get into a combined side. So in that regard it is playing out as per the quality of player going onto the pitch.

    I believe the frustration from here is that a tour that was always going to be a challenge is being made harder by some of the decisons made both on and off the field. The level of application by manager and players on central contracts, for a tour that, we are told, has been central to planning and selection for the past 2 years is quite frankly appalling.

    Covid has clearly been a signifant factor but the whole concept of test cricket and how series are now being conducted is diminishing the basic premise of it being the ultimate test of all the facets which seperates club/county players from the elite.

    Back to the present, it is difficult to see us getting back into this one unless we can produce a stunning performance in the field on day 2 and to date there have been no signs they are capable of it on this tour.......hope i'm proved wrong !
     
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    Exactly.
    Senior players(Root,Stokes and especially Buttler today ) have made basic club cricket errors.This sets such a bad example to the more inexperienced players.
    No foundation from the openers to take a little pressure of 3,4 and 5 who then feel the pressure to step up.
     
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