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  1. bailiff bridge bantam

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    At least the commentators are gloating too much.
     
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    This is the problem. Test cricket is built on partnerships. Too often with England, it gets to the stage where ONE batsman has to take it on his shoulders to keep the innings together. Yesterday was a classic example of what happens when each player has confidence in each other’s abilities. They bat together and build up a score. When a wicket goes down, England panic and the pressure on the incoming batsman increases, and he HAS to score big. And what happens? A collapse. Stokes and Butler take it upon themselves to switch from Test to T20 mode, and get out because they are chasing the game. Robinson out playing a switch hit sums it up, The mentality is all wrong.
     
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  3. Offcomedun

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    And Burns fails again. The man is nowhere near being a test class opener.
     
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  4. Craven Koppite

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    Ah well at least a good first session......

    This squad are deficient in so many areas it is untrue.
     
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  5. bailiff bridge bantam

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    Is this copied and pasted from the football threads?
     
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  6. Offcomedun

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    The main reason you've made us look poor is because we are poor.
     
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  7. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I’ll throw in my statistic from the other thread.
    13 times this calendar year a wicket has fallen before the score has reached 5.
    They are poor foundations to build a decent test score from.
    3 and 4 almost become another set of openers while the Aussie bowlers are still coming in at full tilt.
     
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    Wood gets Labuschagne. Crazy that he wasn't picked for Adelaide.
     
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  9. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I'm now at the point where I want us to lose 5-0 so that there can be absolutely no excuses for heads not to roll at Captain, Coach and ECB level.
     
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  11. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I think an innings defeat in a match where the opposition only scored 267 and you are dismissed for 68 when a lot of bottle was needed is enough for the whole system to be looked at.
    This in a match that Root promised “we will come back stronger” after Adelaide.
    Boland on his debut at 32 years old looked like he’d played 50 tests.
    He’s probably 6th choice in the Aussie team if everybody’s fit and the England batters just couldn’t cope.
    They’ve apparently been planning for 2 years for this Ashes series.
    If serious questions aren’t asked about what that’s involved and how we’ve ended up at this point then we might as well just play white ball cricket from now on.
     
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  12. bantam65

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    How about centrally contracted players ( they are, aren't they)....playing for England and occasionally their county instead of fecking off to IPL or any other of the moneypot cricket competitions.
    Just a thought.
     
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  13. Craven Koppite

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    An excellent interview with Ramprakash this morning. Highlighting that we can put out 3 sides that would probably be competitve in international white ball cricket but the complete opposite in red ball where there is no depth in terms of the next cabs off the ranks.

    There is no doubt we are paying the cost of the over prioritisation of white ball cricket for the past 5 years. We can be competitive in both but need to find the balance. As poor as the current group have been the writing has been on the wall with last season's further impact of squeezing in the Hundred in prime season.

    This tour is done. The players appear mentally shot, the type we have often seen here after a side has been touring for 3-4 months and just want to get onto the plane during the last test. The final tests will be non events in terms competition and viewing. That is if they even go ahead. Any Covid impact on a player will in all likelyhood lead to an early cancellation of the remaining games.

    I envisage we will hear talk of yet another review. In my mind the immediate decisions which should be taken are:
    Prioritisation next season of red ball cricket in the middle of summer.
    Scrap/park the Hundred.
    Review of Central Contracts and the decison making that is preventing such players being available for County games.

    Silverwood and a number of the backroom staff will, rightly or wrongly, carry the can for this tour. His 'supremo' role will end. Giles may go also but probably later as part of a wider shake up of the ECB structure.
    Root will resign , due not getting the response from his team and fed up being required to front up. He has run out of excuses. I think he knows what the issues are but has either been a contributor to the key decisions or cannot in his current role say what he really feels.

    A number of the current squad will see their last test cricket, notably Buttler, Bairstow and most of the rest of the batters will see minimal games in 2022 as a reset takes place.

    The problem we have is most are on central contracts which will, wrongly, lead to them being given priority in selection.

    The view of ex players in the media are still saying the best of the red ball payers are on this tour. But how long can you keep giving Crawley, Pope, Lawrence and Hameed opportunities if they don't deliver.
     
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  14. TallinnBantam

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    Problem is, "red ball" cricket is not where the money is. The media and organisers of cricket, want to give the fans high tempo, big hitting, over in a few hours cricket. I can't see it taking any priority ever again.
     
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  15. bailiff bridge bantam

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    Guilty as charged unfortunately.
    Me and the wife have had season tickets for Yorkshire’s T20 games at Headingley for the last few years.
    I’ve seen 1 day of county championship cricket in that same time.
    And that was only because we were in Scarborough for a do that night.
    The introduction of “the hundred” was another nail in the red ball cricket coffin I’m afraid.
     
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  16. Interested Bystander

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    They have been for two years
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
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  17. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I mentioned this on the countdown thread.With their current form and the awful performances of most of our openers Crawley and Burns should have gone out to bat with the mindset of absolutely nothing stupid.No presents to the Aussies even if that meant a very slow scoring rate.Yet what happens with the score on 2.An utterly ridiculous quick single resulting in Burns being run out.
    The Aussie quicks are obviously too good for our batters but at least make them earn their wickets.
    It must be awful for Malan and Root sat in the changing room knowing that more than likely they are going to have to bat within 5 to 10 overs of the innings starting.
    Innings built on sand and consistently scoring under 200 won’t win you test matches.
    The bowlers have got them in to some half decent positions but the batters have constantly failed to take advantage of these positions with a mixture of poor concentration and baffling shot choices.
    Very frustrating and I’ve even lost a bit of interest in this last test.
     
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  18. Bronco

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  19. bailiff bridge bantam

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    I’m watching it on my phone in a service tunnel under the bridge that spans Conwy bay by the castle on a night shift.
    Might have to do some work soon.
     
  20. Offcomedun

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    29-4 now. Stokes gone. Horrendous start.
     
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